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JSRMinneapolisSep 28, 2025, 1:38 AMpositive95%

Could this crossword BE any more fun?

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ChristopherColumbus, OHSep 28, 2025, 1:47 PMneutral78%

@JSR Yes

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Jacqui JRedondo Beach, CASep 28, 2025, 4:27 PMpositive89%

@JSR Chandler’s cadence was iconic 😆

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AmyPrinceton NJSep 27, 2025, 10:53 PMnegative66%

No one uses that spelling of "lychee" (cue the pedants telling me it's quite common...)

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 27, 2025, 11:00 PMneutral84%

Amy, You write lychee, they write... <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/litchi" target="_blank">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/litchi</a>

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Steve LHaverstraw, NYSep 27, 2025, 11:15 PMneutral58%

@Amy One good thing to know about crosswords is that they don’t always point to the most common spelling or usage of an entry. In this case, today’s entry is a less common spelling, but as Barry has shown, it’s still a valid one. Be careful when you say “no one says…” unless you have polled the entire English-speaking world.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 27, 2025, 11:41 PMneutral68%

Amy, I'm sure somebody could report on the relative frequency of use of the different spellings, but if it's in the dictionary I think it not pedantic to think somebody uses it. P.S. I prefer your spelling, but it wouldn't cross.

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CBNYSep 28, 2025, 1:30 AMneutral67%

@Dawn Let me help by changing the OP's message from polite advice to a polite imperative: "Please don't make unsupported claims like 'no-one uses this spelling'. Please stick to statements which can't be quickly rebutted, like 'I haven't seen anyone use this spelling.' Problem solved!

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jenniemilwaukeeSep 28, 2025, 2:54 AMneutral61%

@Barry Ancona - Pero muy importante. Como el reconocimiento de los varios deletreos de una palabra.

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TeresaBerlinSep 28, 2025, 10:03 AMneutral49%

@Amy FWIW, I had the same beef about Mojave. Finally had to hold my nose and spell it the way the construction required.

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ShrikeCharlotte, NCSep 28, 2025, 2:25 PMnegative49%

@Amy One of the fun things about this comment section is that the same people who understand that language is malleable and literalism isn't necessary in the crossword also seem to have no grasp at all of the idea of hyperbole.

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TexTexasSep 28, 2025, 3:29 PMneutral59%

@Amy "Pedant" = understands variant spellings? Okay.

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CaptainQuahogPlanet EarthSep 28, 2025, 4:14 PMnegative67%

@Amy - Pro tip: Appending "cue the pedants" to your statement, when your claim is provably false, does not pre-empt the perfectly valid rebuttals of your erroneous statement. Quite the opposite.

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Phil VLondon, UKSep 29, 2025, 12:43 AMneutral53%

@Amy I wouldn't have minded the spelling I'd never seen, if it wasn't for the crossings with PEETS. I'm British, but married an American and have spent time in New York, Iowa and Arizona, never noticed a Peets. Having said that, it was the only crossing I didn't figure out, and enjoyed the puzzle overall.

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AnitaNYCSep 27, 2025, 11:09 PMpositive93%

As a fan of Friends back in the day, the title was a giveaway for me. A fun solve, nevertheless. Several years ago I attended a pop-up event and have photos pivoting the couch up the stairs and drinking coffee in Central Perk. A fun time with *my* friends. It's hard to believe the show premiered thirty years ago. You know you’re getting old when “Friends With Benefits” means having someone who can drive at night.

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SPCincinnatiSep 27, 2025, 11:57 PMpositive79%

Well I suspect as we’ve seen already, YMMV depending on whether you like, or at least are familiar with, the show. But whatever you think, you have to give credit for some fabulous construction here—with a lot of gratitude to the crossword gods, no doubt. You have 6 random names from a show and somehow manage to get them completely symmetrical (from side to side at least) and the benefits crossing them? With the exception of Rachel they can be clued as something other than a first name? AND you get the perfect title and revealer??? (I think the name of their cafe was obscure enough that it doesn’t ruin it for most people, and as the editors said regardless you can’t NOT use it.) This is just too good to be true. You can nit all you want about the rest—Ok the grid was a little ungainly with a lot of closed areas, which made it on the harder side to solve, even once you got the theme—but this is a really impressive achievement and nothing to sneeze at. I enjoyed it a lot!!! Also, shout out to my daughter in law and her family who are from Chandler.

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Steve LHaverstraw, NYSep 28, 2025, 12:21 AMnegative56%

@SP Santa MONICA is still a first name. But I don't think it matters anyway.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 28, 2025, 12:28 AMpositive53%

SP, Sorry, but as per my first post, I know next to nothing about the show and I thought it was a great puzzle.

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Elizabeth ConnorsChicagoSep 28, 2025, 3:20 AMpositive95%

@SP I agree with everything you said. Well crafted and enjoyable with nearly zero junk fill.

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Ms. Billie M. SpaightRichmond Hill, NYSep 28, 2025, 4:04 AMneutral93%

@SP Chandler is also the first name of Bindi Irwin's husband.

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Beth in GreenbeltGreenbeltSep 28, 2025, 5:01 AMnegative52%

@SP I have to disagree with you about the cafe name. Pretty sure anyone familiar with the show would recognize it. I'm glad I didn't see the puzzle title before solving.

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STNew YorkSep 28, 2025, 3:34 PMnegative63%

When you spell it "mojave" it takes far longer to solve. LOL

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Peter C.Wheaton, ILSep 28, 2025, 4:36 PMneutral53%

@ST - I jad the same problem.

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John AppleseedMiamiSep 28, 2025, 4:47 PMneutral63%

@ST Came here to say the same thing!

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Helen WrightNow In Somerset UKSep 28, 2025, 4:27 PMpositive97%

So, this weekend I’ve been in Liverpool to celebrate the wedding of my nephew ROSS to the love of his life RACHEL. I kid you not. Long story short; met at uni, separated, lived their lives 300 miles apart, she married and divorced. Met again 15 years later. Happy ever after. Wedding speeches naturally full of FRIENDS references, down to the tiny plastic lobsters on the table. Filling in today’s grid made me smile.

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GBKSep 28, 2025, 5:30 PMpositive98%

@Helen Wright What a lovely coda to your weekend! I hope you share this grid with the wedding party. :)

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ArtemispnwSep 28, 2025, 9:36 PMpositive96%

@Helen Wright What are the odds?!? Lovely story.

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dutchirisberkeleySep 28, 2025, 9:59 PMnegative81%

@Helen Wright I wrote in MOjAVE, saw that it wasn't going to work, and thought, Oh no, another one of those who can't get it right. If you can't, rewrite the cles if you have to, to make it right.

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MichaelBrooklynSep 27, 2025, 10:59 PMnegative69%

I never saw a single episode of "Friends," thus, I was (no pun intended) clueless. I'm sure it was a fun puzzle for fans of the show, but uninspiring for me.

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Steve LHaverstraw, NYSep 27, 2025, 11:18 PMpositive55%

@Michael “Friends” was not pitched at my generation, but my daughter was a big fan. So I managed to see bits and pieces of various episodes throughout the years. Knowledge of the show really wasn’t necessary for the solve, although I could see how being a fan might have enhanced one’s enjoyment of the puzzle.

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DaveLos Angeles, Beverly Hills AdjacentSep 27, 2025, 11:52 PMnegative45%

@Michael Ugh. Totally agree. Sped through this as fast as I could.

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ErikTexasSep 28, 2025, 2:33 AMneutral53%

@Michael Prefacing a pun with "no pun intended" suggests the contrary.

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MarkJerusalemSep 29, 2025, 11:35 AMneutral67%

@Michael I think you can arrested in some states for admitting that :)

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RSPrinceton, NJSep 28, 2025, 12:46 AMneutral46%

This crossword hit close to home. I remember my devastation on hearing the news of Matthew Perry's passing, I knew about his demons and that he had not been in great shape at the Friends reunion, but it was still a shock nonetheless. Friends was such a big part of my life growing up. In my teenage years, as someone living outside the US, that was my visual of what NYC (and by extension, the US) was and all the hope this great country held. Through the years, it has remained a source of great personal comfort: if I'm feeling down, I'll often play an old episode and the refrain of "I'll be there for you" just hits differently. I know how Friends is a polarising show, but for those of us who love it (in all its nostalgia-tinged silliness), it will always be something very meaningful and special. What a wonderful tribute, the puzzle really put a smile on my face today.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 3:49 AMpositive66%

@RS Nice. I don't really understand people who vehemently dislike Friends. You can't argue with the fact that it's exceptionally (and consistently) well written and performed. You may not like the comedy or a particular actor or storyline, but it was a fine and beautifully produced show in my opinion. They fired on all cylinders for YEARS. To me Seinfeld was an uneven "meh" by comparison.

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Jacqui JRedondo Beach, CASep 28, 2025, 6:38 AMpositive91%

“The One With The Benefits” is how I will remember this puzzle 🫶🏼 Friends is the show of my generation. I’m the same age as the main cast, so it was very relatable to me and my group of friends. We were all just a couple of years out of college, starting our careers, dating and just figuring out life. My kids now enjoy watching the reruns and finally get some of my references (like speaking in the manner of CHANDLER who couldn’t BE more funny) 🤣 And who doesn’t love a good rendition of SMELLy cat 😹 JOEY with his How YOU doin’? 😏 And finally, who here didn’t find themselves clapping 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 during the opening credits? <a href="https://youtu.be/sLisEEwYZvw?si=PehZ4IZtvx9ZXS0L" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/sLisEEwYZvw?si=PehZ4IZtvx9ZXS0L</a> Thank you, Rich, for this wonderful tribute to one of my favorite shows 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼

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FrancisGrand Marais, MNSep 28, 2025, 7:14 AMneutral65%

@Jacqui J Nice. I'm not in that generation, and I can't think of any TV series during my era (1970-1980) that seemed a reflection of my young adult experiences. I didn't watch much TV for about half that period, but I remember a lot of lawyer shows and police shows and hospital show. Then there were the soaps "Dallas" and "Dynasty"... But none of them about every day life, were they?

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MBMaineSep 28, 2025, 11:26 AMpositive95%

@Jacqui J Smelly Cat. One of my faves.

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RoldickDenverSep 28, 2025, 3:21 PMneutral48%

Excellent puzzle! One nit to pick: I would argue "ABLATE" does not mean to remove surgically. Ablation is killing tissue without removing it, and often non-surgically! Radioablation uses focused radiation beams that converge with sub-millimeter precision to kill aberrant tissue, particularly in the heart to stop arrhythmias. Some people had EXCISE, and I had RESECT until the very end, both of which are more consistent with the clue.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 3:24 PMneutral50%

@Roldick Lots of somewhat bitter discussion on that below. As the tissue is "removed" by being obliterated, the clue seems okay.

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GrantDelawareSep 28, 2025, 4:48 PMneutral80%

@Roldick Yes! Hawkeye was always resecting bowels in M*A*S*H, so that's what I thought of first.

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Jessica BloomMaineSep 28, 2025, 6:07 PMnegative90%

@Roldick I just made the same comment--should have scrolled farther before posting! I had RESECT too. This was poor editing IMO.

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Dave K.New York, NYSep 28, 2025, 12:50 AMneutral66%

[107D]y cat, [107D]y cat They should've figured a way to work that in as a bonus.

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Elizabeth ConnorsChicagoSep 28, 2025, 3:23 AMneutral57%

@Dave K. They really should have.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 27, 2025, 10:23 PMneutral77%

If I had actually watched "Friends" rather than merely being aware that it existed, the puzzle title would have given everything away. I only dimly recalled it after getting the theme from the revealer. Before that, I noticed the six crossing letters could spell OCEANS. What is depicted on the show as Monica's apartment is half a mile from mine, but the show took place 2800 miles away. Ironically, for a time, Jennifer Aniston had an actual apartment two blocks west of me (in a building where actual friends of mine lived). Clever puzzle that hit home. Enjoy the view, Rich.

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Jennifer Anistonurdumnew yorkSep 28, 2025, 1:55 PMneutral69%

@Barry Ancona I'm still here. Now would you please close your curtains or put some clothes on!

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Jennifer Anistonurdumnew yorkSep 28, 2025, 3:00 PMneutral79%

@Barry Ancona Drones. Also, I just want you to know, in case anyone names the character I was alluding to, I didn't mean it that way.

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CBNYSep 28, 2025, 1:33 AMpositive96%

Fun puzzle, nice example of a theme which isn't needed to fill in the full puzzle, but then delivers a nice 'aha' payload when you make the connection. Enjoyed going back through it to find all the characters and their respective benefit.

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ad absurdumchicagoSep 28, 2025, 2:45 PMpositive79%

Yesterday I saw one of my favorite episodes of friends: The One Where Nearly Everyone Tells Mike "I'll Be There For You" Where are you, Mike? We better not be on a break.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 3:28 PMnegative35%

@ad absurdum Ha! And you're right - I sure hope he isn't letting one, just one sour apple spoil his barrel of laughs!

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Jacqui JRedondo Beach, CASep 28, 2025, 4:03 PMpositive97%

@ad absurdum perfectly on point 🤩

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MikeMunsterSep 28, 2025, 6:41 PMpositive95%

@ad absurdum Just here in the art gallery, viewing the Rembrandts (gallery of one-hit wonders, apparently). Humbly reflecting today on everyone's friendship and empathy. I'm so thankful for this corner of kindness, that everyone is here for each other. 💛

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AndrzejWarszawa, PolandSep 28, 2025, 4:50 AMneutral72%

I've never seen the whole series of "Friends", but I watched enough episodes for half of the theme to be a gimme. The other half came to me after the gimme of a revealer. Is VACATION only classified as a benefit in the US? Over here it's a right, and one of many: all employers are obliged to provide all employees with paid vacation time, up to 26 days per year in most cases, and more for some professions. For example, as a professor at uni I'm entitled to 36 days of vacation. Polish employees also have up to 33 sick days with 80% of our pay, long maternal and paternal leave, living minimum wage, paid overtime and weekend work, etc. Of course, many employers, especially small businesses, try to game the system, utilizing illegal contractual trickery to deprive employees, usually young ones, of their rights, and the government doesn't have the resources to do much about it 😢. I had to look up some proper names to deal with some of the spots in the grid, e.g. SYMS and WESTELM in the trivia-overloaded SE corner. I don't get the clue for BEHAVES - "Minds one's P's and Q's". Any help? Lucek was great on his first long walk in the forest. I'm looking forward to all the fun we will have over the years, exploring nature. We will have to teach him to swim, too, but it's already getting too cold to do that this year. It I'll have to wait - in the spring of 2026 we will take him to the lakes in my wife's home region of Wielkopolska, where Jorge the Lab learned to swim as a puppy.

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SPCincinnatiSep 28, 2025, 4:57 AMneutral64%

@Andrzej Nope vacation (at least paid vacation) is a benefit not a right here. As for mind your p’s and q’s, it’s a fairly common phrase here which means to follow the rules carefully. I never thought much about it before, but looking it up, the best idea for its origin is, if you are a kid in school, it’s easy to write a lower case q instead of a p since they are just reversed. So it meant to be careful—and has evolved to mean follow the rules carefully.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 5:12 AMpositive58%

@Andrzej As I'm sure you know, "benefits" here are a prize, with certain lucky employees granted the ability to pay many thousands of dollars for catastrophic-only health insurance with huge deductibles (that is, the paperwork goes through insurance and you end up paying for the care anyway). Again, those are the lucky people whose employer even offers health insurance benefits. So yeah, vacation (and sick) time is optional too. The great leap forward here (fought by the usual suspects) is the Family Medical Leave act, which grants people the ability to take unpaid time off to have a baby. That's right, unpaid. And it's a hard won "benefit". And of course in fairness there's the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) which actually did help people get insurance and save a few thousand lives. But I appear to be ranting. Good to hear the Lucek/Luckyk/Lucyfer updates. I'm assuming it's just the one dog. :)

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dutchirisberkeleySep 28, 2025, 5:36 AMneutral75%

@Andrzej You may find that Lucek was born knowing how to swim.

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SueRealCalgarySep 28, 2025, 9:07 AMneutral58%

@Andrzej The phrase "mind your p's and q's" comes from "mind your pints and quarts", ie. don't be an idiot when imbibing in the pub.... Ie. behave!

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SueRealCalgarySep 28, 2025, 2:53 PMneutral71%

@Andrzej Mind one's P's and Q's, means "Mind one's Pints and Quarts". A warning given to pub patrons when they drink too much and become unruly. As in "Behave".

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SonnyBerlinSep 28, 2025, 9:56 PMpositive92%

@Andrzej I've been reading your comments daily and always look for them here in the forum. I don't know if you've mentioned it before, but you being a University Professor fills in a lot of gaps of the image I've constructed of you in my mind. Because the personality you present here reminds me so much of my favorite Professors during my time studying. Just thought I'd share, even though it's directly related to todays crossword.

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LewisAsheville, NCSep 28, 2025, 11:35 AMpositive92%

Well, wasn’t that creative, Rich coming across the phrase FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS, and picturing a puzzle hooking up the friends from the show with work benefits. Bravo! And wasn’t that remarkable, actually pulling this theme off IRL, having it fit symmetry, and decently filling in the grid, given the constraints of six crossed answers plus a 19-letter revealer. Wow! Because I didn’t watch the show – maybe saw an episode or two – my biggest aha was that moment I thought, “I bet these were the characters on ‘Friends’!” Best memory trigger was UNUM, which shot me right back to the first time I heard the phrase “e pluribus unum” in the Wizard of Oz, when I was a wee kid. (It’s when the Wizard is handing out a diploma to the Scarecrow). It sounded so silly to me I never forgot it. Lovely serendipities: The rare-in-crosswords five-letter semordnilap PEETS, and the pair of T-starters (TBONDS and TBAR). A fun and satisfying solve on top of an impressive theme and grid-build. Rich, Sunday in the box with you was a start-to-finish treat – thank you!

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LewisAsheville, NCSep 28, 2025, 11:39 AMneutral52%

If you wish to be reminded of that scene in The Wizard of Oz, it is here: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ddHEpDdHg&t=16s" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ddHEpDdHg&t=16s</a>

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MBMaineSep 28, 2025, 11:51 AMneutral50%

@Lewis “Unum” is definitely one of those words that can sound like something it isn’t.

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SteveBoulder COSep 28, 2025, 2:41 PMpositive91%

This crossword had a very silly theme, so needless to say I enjoyed it.

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VaerBrooklynSep 28, 2025, 3:18 AMpositive73%

I watched Friends back in the 90s, but mostly because it was on the same night as Seinfeld and ER and rewatched it during the pandemic. The rewatch made me appreciate how well-crafted the writing and acting was. Anyway, despite knowing the show pretty well I totally missed the theme. Like Barry i saw that the crossing letters anagrammed to OCEANS, but never realized that it was entire entries i should have been paying attention to. Well, it wasn't the first theme that went over my head, and it won't be the last. Side note: any puzzle with George TAKEI and the EROICA in it, is okay by me.

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SamGSF Bay AreaSep 28, 2025, 5:28 AMneutral43%

Smooth solving other than a few early missteps (I always SEETHE before I SEE RED). Didn't really use the theme or even see it till I was done. I am much more Seinfeld than Friends, but it was punny enough when I got it.

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SamGSF Bay AreaSep 28, 2025, 5:29 AMpositive92%

And the McDonald clue was a true winner.

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HeidiDallasSep 28, 2025, 11:50 AMnegative57%

I have GOT to start reading those Sunday puzzle titles! I don’t know why I always forget. Big fan of Friends, but as I did this puzzle in spurts, over the span of several hours, the combined presence of the different character names just didn’t register. So sadly, neither did the theme. Not that it matters, I guess. It’s a moo point. Like a cow’s opinion. It’s moo.

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Elaine DryeNCSep 28, 2025, 1:23 PMnegative77%

@Heidi I read it even weekdays to make sure. But it didn’t rally help. The light never came on.

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LGMassachusettsSep 28, 2025, 1:27 PMpositive52%

@Heidi I find it’s more fun to figure out the theme on my own, so I intentionally don’t read it lol

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Jessica BloomMaineSep 28, 2025, 6:04 PMnegative60%

Someone may have already registered this complaint but "Remove surgically, as tissue" is an inaccurate clue for ABLATE (and sorry for spoiler for anyone). An ablation does not remove tissue, it destroys it (typically with heat or electricity). Ablations are more often considered procedures than surgeries; a dermatologist ablating a skin lesion in the office does not have tissue for pathology as one would when surgically removing tissue (which is to resect or excise tissue, both fit better with this clue). This should have been caught by editors (though in general medical terms are often misses in the NYT puzzle, unfortunately). Otherwise kind of a cute homage to Friends and a relatively quick solve for me.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 28, 2025, 6:11 PMneutral90%

Jessica, Re: ABLATE You might want to read this earlier thread... <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/shared/comment/7f4b19g008r?rsrc=cshare&smid=url-share" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/shared/comment/7f4b19g008r?rsrc=cshare&smid=url-share</a>

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CrevecoeurPA USSep 28, 2025, 6:21 PMneutral54%

@Jessica Bloom yes I had trouble with this too, and yes I read the other comment thread. I’m not a doc but married to one, who is pretty picky about terms, and I confidently entered “excise”—took me a while to replace that with “ablate.” I thought hmmm, but these clues are often a bit loose.

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CaptainQuahogPlanet EarthSep 28, 2025, 6:43 PMneutral63%

@Jessica Bloom - I hope you can get your spouse to contact the National Cancer Institute (and many other online medical institutes) to get them to correct this error on their various sites. I am sure they will appreciate the correction. <a href="https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/ablation" target="_blank">https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/ablation</a>

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DanNew JerseySep 28, 2025, 7:35 PMneutral51%

@Jessica Bloom As a doctor in a field who does ablations, I came here to post this but you beat me to it lol. I originally had resect. Excise would also be accurate

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MarlenePASep 28, 2025, 7:38 PMnegative74%

@Jessica Bloom I spent four hours on a table so the dr could do a radio frequency ABLATion on my heart...not an excision. In the end, he was unable to do it, due to the location...oh, never mind. No one needs my medical details. But he was definitely going to ablate, not excise, the target.

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AlexNYCSep 28, 2025, 7:45 PMnegative67%

@Jessica Bloom I'm an anesthesiologist and I came here to say the exact same thing. I originally had excise in that spot, but once I figured out they wanted to use ablate instead I let out an audible sigh of exasperation at the inaccurate word choice.

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SPCincinnatiSep 28, 2025, 8:02 PMneutral64%

@Jessica Bloom I am a physician—admittedly I don’t do ablations. I’m trying to understand the issue—if you do an ablation then the thing you ablated is gone—it’s removed. Maybe the issue is the nuance of the word removed? It can also have the connotation of taking out and moving to another place? If that’s the case than ABLATE would certainly be wrong, it I think if removed in a more general sense

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DQCaliforniaSep 27, 2025, 10:53 PMneutral80%

Meh 🫤

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ShauronPortland ORSep 28, 2025, 3:43 PMnegative74%

This puzzle was uninspiring for a Sunday. Pretty easy, even not knowing anything about Friends. For fans I imagine it was cute, but I'm not sure the cute factor compensates for the meh factor. I don't mean to insult Friends fans or anyone else (we're all sensitive these days), but in my view, having a theme is necessary but not sufficient to warrant publication in the Sunday NYT.

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Red CarpetSt PaulSep 28, 2025, 2:34 AMpositive90%

While I don’t take back my pity party on Wednesday night into Thursday, I am incredibly grateful for this smooth sailing puzzle. I guess Thursday is now a Moo point.

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FrancisGrand Marais, MNSep 28, 2025, 2:41 AMneutral43%

@Red Carpet Neither the pain of failing and the exultation of succeeding lasts very long. I've always been amazed by how quickly I forget when "my" team wins a Super Bowl or a World Series. In three months tops I have to really strain to remember who won.

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VaerBrooklynSep 28, 2025, 3:05 AMnegative90%

@Red Carpet Nobody ever gets it when I say Moo point. :(

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DougPortland ORSep 28, 2025, 8:45 AMpositive89%

@Red Carpet I'm a big Friends fan, but it took me a minute to get your Moo point. I'm still chuckling about it. Thanks for the reminder!

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 28, 2025, 1:19 PMneutral92%

The not terribly common word REDOUND appears is a puzzle about a TV show that debuted in the fall of 1994. In a fall 1994 episode of "Law & Order" (White Rabbit), William Kunstler -- playing himself -- uses the word.

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GBKSep 28, 2025, 6:05 PMnegative61%

@Barry Ancona That sounds like an IMdB comment! I'm often amazed at the connections those commenters can make. Law & Order "White Rabbit": <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629498/?ref_=ext_shr" target="_blank">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629498/?ref_=ext_shr</a>

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DoriDCSep 28, 2025, 1:29 PMnegative73%

where in the world do they spell Lichee -- "Litchi"?

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 28, 2025, 1:44 PMneutral82%

Dori, Here, for one: <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/litchi" target="_blank">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/litchi</a> (I prefer Lychee, but it wouldn't cross either.)

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LeCheffreChicago, ILSep 28, 2025, 1:52 PMneutral61%

@Dori upvoted because it messed me up, but in scientific classification, its genus is Litchi and its species is Litchi chinensis. Since the term lychee comes from Chinese, and the spelling from European merchants who first encountered it in China, let’s paraphrase the closing line from Chinatown, “Forget about it, Dori, it’s Chinese transliteration.”

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LeCheffreChicago, ILSep 28, 2025, 1:54 PMneutral75%

@Dori on more thing… someday, someone will use the same clue but the answer will be Alligator Strawberry and we’ll all say, “Who knew Lychees were also known as Alligator Strawberries?”

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MarkAlbuquerqueSep 28, 2025, 2:05 PMneutral55%

@Dori It has been used before in at least one NYT crossword, so I was wise to it. In the real world, I have never seen anything but lychee.

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiSep 28, 2025, 2:44 PMneutral68%

@Dori I agree with Barry Ancona's spelling (how we saw it on menus back in The Fifties in Hawaii) but I suspect puzzle constructors of playing fast and loose with all sorts of unauthorized orthography.... I see you have a lot of YES! Recco's, too. We win.

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GrantDelawareSep 28, 2025, 4:07 PMnegative79%

@Dori In China, maybe? It's actually pronounced li zhi, which means, "fruit from the branch." I've never liked lychee, which is probably Hong Kong English, derived from Cantonese.

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GDMassachusettsSep 28, 2025, 12:18 AMneutral62%

I didn't know it was because I print it out under "ink saver" that I never see italics in my NYT puzzles so I didn't even know which ones were italicized. I'm imagining the perks, yes? I suppose that would've helped me catch the "intersections," but I enjoyed solving it nevertheless. I watched "Friends" and the whole theme and the title were very clever. Thanks, Rich!

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BTAmsterdamSep 28, 2025, 7:54 AMnegative78%

Painful combination of obscure Americana (sports teams, furniture brands, court cases) and obscure spellings (LITCHI..?) topped off with a dollop of pig Latin, made this a bit of a drag. It's fair game of course, given than this is the NYT, but still didn't have nearly as much fun as usual. At least the Ryder cup is going well!

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SarahFranceSep 28, 2025, 9:20 PMneutral48%

@BT yes my feeling exactly! The lower right in particular had a mix of UK and (117D) and Spanish (100D) vocab crossing a furniture maker (120A) an acronym clue for an acronym answer (116D) and then two names (may not be obscure celebreties to many but all names are hard for me..).. ouch

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NoraFranceSep 28, 2025, 11:09 AMpositive80%

Crosslandia, you might want to check out the obituary for Mel Taub. He created Puns and Anagrams puzzles. In the article is a doozy of a crossword puzzle! At least it was for me. I revealed one answer (and read the answer to another in the article) before I got even a toehold. It was fun! Free link: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/crosswords/mel-taub-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pU8.Q66x.Sce2fk_3aaJf&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/crosswords/mel-taub-dead.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pU8.Q66x.Sce2fk_3aaJf&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare</a>

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Times RitaNVSep 28, 2025, 11:26 AMpositive74%

@Nora Thank you for this. I got into Puns and Anagrams as a teenager. While in H.S. I had an after-school job working as secretary at an import-export firm in Manhattan. One of my bosses was a NYT puzzle freak; he knew I was, too, but just the crossword. He was the one who started me on them, and told me that the beauty of that puzzle was that you'll always know when your answer is correct. IMO, no one has been able to construct a P & A the way Mel did. He has been missed ever since he stopped doing them. RIP, Mel.

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NoraFranceSep 28, 2025, 12:28 PMneutral65%

@Nora At least for me, the puzzle was not saved when I left the page (NYT app). Set aside some time to get it done in one go. Granted, I remembered most of my answers, but my time was then skewed to quite a bit faster than it actually took. (An hour, so likely about 1.5 hours in reality?)

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John CarsonJersey CoastSep 28, 2025, 1:07 PMpositive97%

@Nora Thank you for posting this link. Some very nice and notable comments too.

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Strudel DadTorontoSep 28, 2025, 1:45 PMneutral51%

@Nora Speaking of puns, have I ever mentioned before the art form that Sam created that provides evidence, if indeed any were needed, of her skill in this regard? Google “Sam Corbin” and “50 puns in 120 seconds” to see some of her artistry.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 2:44 PMpositive95%

@Nora Thank you! So much fun. I really miss these. They are SO concentrated in wit and always seemed to have taken an unthinkable amount of effort to construct even one clue. What an impressive guy.

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SPCincinnatiSep 28, 2025, 1:42 PMneutral68%

So in response to people complaining that some the names are horizontal and the rest vertical—again I have to geek out on construction. So specifically in response to ROSS and JOEY being horizontal…I did a double take at that also but look at the crossings—WELLNESS and VACATION. If ROSS were vertical and WELLNESS crosses at its second last letter, then if JOEY was vertical then VACATION would have to cross at the second A to be symmetrical which doesn’t work, so you’d have to find a different benefit with 8 letters that crossed at the A (or change ROSS’s). And with only 4 letters (3 for ROSS) you don’t have a lot of options to go with—not to mention the J and Y in JOEY which make it even harder. Again, say what you will about the aesthetics if they bother you (or say don’t publish at all if it can’t be perfect) but just consider it’s not laziness or lack of skill that produces these blemishes, quite the opposite.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 3:34 PMneutral60%

@SP Sir, this is a Wendy's. The sausage factory tour is down the block. ;) Seriously, your points are well taken. Even as it stands I took issue with some of the "benefits" and I can see it getting worse if twisting such as you describe were required. However.... I think what you've really uncovered here as the villain is the useless symmetry rule, one of my peeves. We see it holding back what might otherwise be a more satisfying puzzle. It's edifying to hear your analysis (sincerely).

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EHMichiganSep 28, 2025, 4:16 PMpositive97%

Kudos to whomever chose the header image for today’s blog. PIVOT!

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SarahNHSep 28, 2025, 4:51 PMpositive89%

As a somewhat dissenting opinion, I want to add that I’ve never watched the show but have gathered so much through cultural osmosis that I knew what the theme was as soon as I read the title. I remembered most, but not all, of the names. Found it fun! :)

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Geoffrey KingSeattleSep 28, 2025, 8:09 PMpositive78%

@Sarah Same here. Never watched the show but I immediately recognized what the title of the puzzle referenced. Could only remember half the characters' names, but did understand the photo accompanying this column. Fun puzzle even though I wasn't exactly the target audience.

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LisaTampaSep 28, 2025, 11:17 AMpositive97%

Well, that song will be stuck in my head all morning. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Cute puzzle.

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BNYSep 28, 2025, 3:51 PMnegative58%

@Lisa That's one clap too many. Common mistake, made it myself for years. Perhaps I've watched a bit too much Friends.

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OracleNew York, NYSep 28, 2025, 3:03 PMpositive99%

So much fun! As a millennial, I finally feel seen and validated by the NYT crossword ;)

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Jacqui JRedondo Beach, CASep 28, 2025, 4:01 PMpositive85%

@Oracle and I, as a Gen Xer claimed the same. The cast are my age and their everyday life paralleled mine and my peers at that exact moment in time 😎

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MegPortland, ORSep 28, 2025, 12:04 AMneutral73%

PIV-AHT

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Stacy M.Boston, MASep 28, 2025, 12:59 AMpositive85%

@Meg The only thing that could have made this better would be getting PIVOT in the grid!

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VaerBrooklynSep 28, 2025, 2:54 AMneutral88%

@Meg/StaceyM I was just discussing the Pivot episode with a friend who was moving furniture to the third floor of a brownstone. She was not familiar, so I sent her this. <a href="https://youtu.be/F8wmgLqW71s?si=eqAksRnlJiEHzO32" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/F8wmgLqW71s?si=eqAksRnlJiEHzO32</a>

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JeanneSan FranciscoSep 28, 2025, 1:15 AMneutral43%

Got the revealer early on but didn’t connect it to a sitcom until afterward and was very annoyed with myself for taking too long to get CHANDLER, a city(?) where I’ve visited friends. Had enough difficulty along the way to make it interesting but finished in good time. All in all a good Sunday puzzle. Thank you.

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ChristinaIowaSep 28, 2025, 12:04 PMpositive96%

A smooth one for me until I got to RE_OUND. Learned a new word today!!

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MBMaineSep 28, 2025, 12:12 PMnegative66%

@Christina That one snagged me, too. Ugh.

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JerryAthens, GaSep 28, 2025, 2:37 PMnegative36%

@Christina Redound... brilliant!! Not resound, not even renoun_ Did not see that coming.

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Times RitaNVSep 28, 2025, 12:05 PMneutral75%

I never watched Friends, but over the years there were so many references to it and stories about its stars, that it was easy to know the names of all the characters. And I'd see the name of the coffee shop on the screen before turning the channel. But as I was filling in the puzzle I had no idea that those names had anything to do with a TV show. Still, I made no connection to them or the trick even after I filled in the revealer and then the rest of the puzzle. So I walked away for a moment to do something, and when I came back, CHANDLER jumped out at me, right there in the middle. There had been enough publicity about Matthew Perry's death that some brain cells clicked with the revealer, and so I looked for the names of the other characters, then eventually those benefits, which in more civilized countries are rights, not crumbs tossed to the peasants. Pretty impressive construction,though I'm now having to resort to a big magnifying glass for the Sunday puzzle because of some eye issues.

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MartyShelton, Wash.Sep 28, 2025, 12:38 PMnegative63%

@Times Rita Never? Watched? Friends? Not sure how you avoided it

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GrantDelawareSep 28, 2025, 5:04 PMneutral75%

@Times Rita I never watched "General Hospital" but it was impossible to avoid hearing about Luke and Laura, at the time. Similarly, Ross and Rachel. It was Mulder and Scully for me.

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JerryAthens, GaSep 28, 2025, 2:33 PMpositive93%

Such a beautiful Sunday here. It rained the past few days, and the humidity is barely noticeable. The lake level is up, the fish are jumping, and the Bridge gang meets here today. - It took me forever to ascertain the crossing pairs were not synonymous with the associated character. I was trying to meld the character with their profession, but it was even simpler than that. Benefits, plain and simple. - Send a card. I actually still do that, and I receive them as well, albeit in lesser quantity than in the past. There seem to be at least two or three of us in the US that continue to partake in this ancient ritual, may it ever continue. - I'm mildly relieved we may have finally put the DISC vs. DISK debate aside. I believe NODISC settles it all. - Liberal leaning. There. I just addressed close to the entirety of this forum. 😉😁 - What do slow fliers and FINED have to do with each other? What gets fined for flying too slow? - A HEN party? Dare I ask? - How many immediately filled in NUYS, then changed it to NESS? Actually the crosses did that for me. That and realizing it was on the opposite tip of the state! - I do love the Middle English words still in use, especially those beginning with "a." Terms like astir, apace, astride, aghast, etc. do it for me, I can't explain it, it's part of my PSYCHE. Several of the "be" words have their rightful place; like betwixt, behest and bemoan. Attack = SETUPON, I like that, too. The term crapulent? Eh, no explaining that.

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Cracked22Innisifil, ONSep 28, 2025, 2:36 PMneutral79%

@Jerry slow FILER

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GregorovichUKSep 28, 2025, 3:08 PMneutral72%

@Jerry didnt ask

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ShimstuGloucesterSep 28, 2025, 6:58 PMneutral78%

@Jerry a hen party or “hen do” is the British version of a bachelorette party.

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Michael GaobestSan FranciscoSep 28, 2025, 4:05 PMpositive98%

Omg!!!! Beyond joy to accidentally discover the punchline. I got a box set and in 2003/2004 I “binged” every episode - one a morning before work. Then in late April 2004 I watched the finale with my now-wife after a few weeks of dating. Beyond great because I really needed help with some squares and now I know the names to use. So fun!!!! Thank you!!!

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Marshall WalthewArdmoreSep 28, 2025, 1:35 AMpositive65%

The puzzle had an interesting looking grid, but more closed off space than I typically care for. It was a pretty straightforward solve for me. I didn’t look at the title, and never caught on to the Friends connection. My only real hiccup was having seethes instead of SEESRED, which caused a little trouble in the SW.

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FrancisGrand Marais, MNSep 28, 2025, 2:43 AMneutral86%

@Marshall Walthew I had SEEthEs initially, too. I think we were primed for it as I remember if from a couple days ago. Thursday?

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Jane WheelaghanLondonSep 28, 2025, 7:25 PMneutral82%

@Marshall Walthew I've read the phrase "closed off space" more than once - what do you refer to, and why does it make a difference? Thanks.

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ChristopherColumbus, OHSep 28, 2025, 9:29 AMnegative84%

This was thoroughly unpleasant. I filled in the revealer without even thinking, but even after finishing the puzzle I still had no idea what was going on. I had to read the explanation offered here twice -- once before and once after I went back to look at the grid. You have to mentally add the word "insurance" to both "dental" and "health" to torture those answers into thematic conformity. But you cannot even do THAT with "wellness," which of course is a broad concept. The puzzle title means nothing to me either, as I recall the existence of the show "Friends," but I can never remember if I'm thinking of that show or Melrose Place, which iirc isn't even the same genre. So a coffee shop? Get out of here. Now. This puzzle is what happens when you try to divide fun by zero.

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BradRochester NYSep 28, 2025, 10:50 AMpositive86%

@Christopher "Divide fun by zero." Nice turn of phrase. Gotta remember that one!

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Nancy J.NHSep 28, 2025, 10:54 AMneutral58%

@Christopher I never saw the show either, but it was a very popular and certainly had enough fans to make this a viable theme. You don't have to add anything to the ends of the words. Broadly speaking, they're just BENEFITS. A WELLNESS BENEFIT may include things like a free gym membership or nutrition counciling, so I don't see that as an outlier.

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MP RogersNeenah, WISep 28, 2025, 11:50 AMpositive86%

@Christopher Mathematically you cannot divide by zero, the result is undefined. However, you can look at the limit as x, say, approaches zero, and that limit is, of course, infinity. So yes, I agree, this was an infinitely fun crossword. 😉

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 28, 2025, 12:15 PMnegative68%

Christopher, Sorry you couldn't solve the puzzle. Better luck next Sunday.

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Rich in AtlantaAustell, GeorgiaSep 28, 2025, 12:05 PMnegative53%

Statement. I didn't do well on this puzzle (that's an understatement). And... must confess that even after I finished (with some cheating) I still had to ponder for quite a while to grasp the theme on the various occurrences. That's all on me. Puzzle find today. A Sunday from October 11, 1970 by Elmer Toro with the title "Brief mention." There was no reveal in that besides the title. I would have to guess that these would be some of the theme answers: BEPERFECTLYFRANK ARTFORARTSSAKE FIREWATWILL CHIPONTHESHOULDER NIPINTHEBUD INTHENICKOFTIME BALLINGTHEJACK And there were more. Here's that link: <a href="https://www.xwordinfo.com/PS?date=10/11/1970&g=18&d=D" target="_blank">https://www.xwordinfo.com/PS?date=10/11/1970&g=18&d=D</a> ....

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MichaelUSASep 28, 2025, 1:00 PMnegative93%

This has to be the most boring solve YTD. Same recycled clues I see every day with a lame theme topped off with an additional 20 seconds spent running the alphabet at the crossing for 97.

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LeCheffreChicago, ILSep 28, 2025, 1:44 PMnegative60%

Just a request that you stop posting the new puzzles at 6 pm CST. I was doing Saturday’s Sudoku, put it down, came back after six, and it was gone and replaced with Sundays. I had six more hours locally to do the Saturday puzzles before they disappeared. And now I have none for today. Not a problem for the crossword, Wordle or connections, but sudoku is actually my favorite puzzle.

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Jeff ZMadison, WISep 28, 2025, 1:46 PMpositive53%

@LeCheffre When that happens to me, I retrieve them from Crossword Archives, and if I complete them in a reasonably timely manner it doesn't end my streak (if I have one) (this week I don't) (I still count myself among the all-time greats, however).

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CyndieEl Dorado Hills, CASep 28, 2025, 2:37 PMneutral67%

@LeCheffre Agree. At least they could offer a Sudoku archive.

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GBKSep 28, 2025, 5:56 PMneutral60%

@LeCheffre There is a specific publishing schedule for each NYT puzzle. That said, I really hope you email the Games team and not simply leave your complaint here in the comments where it very likely will not get any useful traction. They've started archives for other puzzles, so perhaps you can influence them! Good luck!

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VaerBrooklynSep 28, 2025, 2:36 PMneutral93%

Nora from France posted an open link to Mel Taub's obituary down below. Here is a link to a follow-up article, which includes three additional puzzles <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/26/obituaries/mel-taub-puzzles.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pU8.ux3h.gNHriotjWf33&smid=url-share" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/26/obituaries/mel-taub-puzzles.html?unlocked_article_code=1.pU8.ux3h.gNHriotjWf33&smid=url-share</a>

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NoraFranceSep 28, 2025, 3:09 PMneutral50%

@Vaer Ooo! Or as we say here, oh la la la la!

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PatMarylandSep 28, 2025, 5:59 PMnegative68%

Was not a fan of the show, so the names didn't jump out at me, nor did I know that Central Perk was the name of the coffee shop. I kept looking for the letter that was used by both clue pairs, thinking they would spell CENTRAL. Didn't work. I had to read the column to get it, and then I understood about the names, but the benefits still had me puzzled, and the explanation in the column was clear as mud. Took a few minutes for me to realize the non-name crosses were all work benefits. Not a thing for me--I'm retired!

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DonCASep 28, 2025, 7:05 PMnegative56%

@Pat Same - solved the puzzle, didn't get the theme, read this column, STILL didn't get it! -Until I ready your comment. Thanks!

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HeathieJSt. Paul, MNSep 28, 2025, 8:03 PMneutral50%

Ohhh. My. Gawd! Before I understood the employment benefits part of the theme, I had jaNiS crossing CHANDLER. 😆 I mean, she wasn't an extra, as in the highlighted clue, but I still thought maybe it worked loosely. I was kind of disappointed to have to remove it. So I'm not against it, but I've also never considered myself a huge fan of Friends, yet I also know pretty much everyone and everything that ever happened in it, strangely enough. Just one of those cultural things I guess. I suppose for a while in my twenties, I also sported the Jennifer Aniston hairdo from the earliest seasons. A fine puzzle!

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BruceSeattle, WASep 27, 2025, 11:10 PMnegative72%

Would have been nice if the ink-saver printable version actually had the italics. I think the last three or four times a puzzle has had italics it's not been in that version. And italics wasn't mentioned in the clues anywhere, so I didn't know to look at the ink-wasting printable version. Can we get this fixed?

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Barry AnconaNew York NYSep 27, 2025, 11:24 PMnegative56%

Bruce, Only the Newspaper Version PDF has italics, graphics, and anything other than plain text. It might be nice to change that, but it seems to be intentional, not broken.

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Nancy ShackDowners Grove, ILSep 27, 2025, 11:45 PMnegative91%

@Bruce:I came here to say what you said! It's just not right that the print version doesn't deliver an essential aspect of the puzzle. This is a bug, not a feature and I think it is broken. Ruins the solve.

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jenniemilwaukeeSep 28, 2025, 2:48 AMneutral70%

@Bruce - Actually, the italics were not critical to the solve. The revealer at 101A was enough, and all the theme clues led to real words. I did like that the electronic version lit up the characters names to help me find them after I got the revealer, but again, not critical. I got the revealer without catching the theme of the character names first. And the italicization of course can't be seen in the puzzle. You have to go back through all the clues to see it (electronic version).

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Nancy J.NHSep 28, 2025, 10:38 AMnegative71%

@Bruce Once I got stuck, I figured there was something missing from my preferred print version, so I checked the other version. I don't understand why NYT doesn't have an ink saver option like almost every other crossword puzzle. It shouldn't be that difficult to add.

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EdHalifax, Nova ScotiaSep 27, 2025, 11:37 PMpositive52%

Snoozefest. No wonder 40 winks appeared twice in clues.

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FrancisGrand Marais, MNSep 28, 2025, 3:35 AMpositive68%

@Ed It just appears that way to you because you live in "exciting" Nova Scotia, where everything that's anything happens.

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