Thursday, December 19, 2024

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYDec 19, 2024, 3:13 AMneutral82%

TIR (Today I realized) that SAUTÉ PAN and "saucepan" share seven of eight letters. Ask me how I know.

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JohnWilmywood, NCDec 19, 2024, 3:17 AMneutral61%

@Steve L I was right there with you.

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Liz BDurham, NCDec 19, 2024, 3:19 AMneutral71%

@Steve L My first thought was SAUCEPAN but I waited to enter it in case the answer was something wild. I didn't know what Charlie brought to the factory, and I wouldn't have guessed that the cord was SPINAL in my first two or three or six or seven guesses.

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PcravesNycDec 19, 2024, 3:35 AMneutral58%

@Steve L I convinced myself SCIR had to just be a word I just did not know haha

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PatrickDCDec 19, 2024, 3:35 AMneutral66%

@Steve L ha same. This was my last change.

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KatyUSADec 19, 2024, 3:37 AMpositive79%

@Steve L , me too!!!

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NowhinersSoCalDec 19, 2024, 3:39 AMneutral56%

@Steve L Cuz scir ain’t a thing?

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JoanArizonaDec 19, 2024, 3:41 AMneutral66%

@Steve L At first I had 'saucepan', too! I suspect many people did.

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Steven M.New York, NYDec 19, 2024, 3:46 AMnegative86%

@Steve L That cost me my gold star today. Couldn't figure out where I had my mistake

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Red CarpetSt PaulDec 19, 2024, 3:53 AMneutral49%

@Steve L TIL that outside of the Midwest the skillet/frying pan is called the saute pan. I had no idea. Where’s my hot dish!

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Wayne HarrisonCanadaDec 19, 2024, 4:11 AMneutral54%

@Joan I actually hade sauté pan first then changed it to saucepan. Oops.

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Dave K.New York, NYDec 19, 2024, 4:15 AMnegative68%

@Steve L sauTepan was my very last letter, after sCir didn't make sense in the down clue. Luckily only wasted a few seconds on it after the puzzle didn't solve.

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ClareThe WestDec 19, 2024, 4:17 AMneutral53%

@Steve L Last piece to fall in place!

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David BlattTulsa, OKDec 19, 2024, 4:33 AMneutral50%

@Pcraves I feel so seen.

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Cat Lady MargaretMaineDec 19, 2024, 7:10 AMneutral52%

It’s only after reading the comments that I realized: The 10D column contains the well known warning about comma use: LET’S EAT GRANDPA

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JustinDenverDec 19, 2024, 7:14 AMneutral67%

@Cat Lady Margaret The Panda Says No!

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NoraFranceDec 19, 2024, 11:04 AMneutral56%

@Justin, well shoot then I'm leaving

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JohnWMNB CanadaDec 19, 2024, 12:45 PMpositive69%

Cat Lady Margaret, Very nice. (Can’t resist noting that such a large meal might cause you to RUNLATE POSTSUP)

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JoyaNew YorkDec 19, 2024, 6:46 PMpositive99%

@Cat Lady Margaret HAH! Wonderful catch! I'm so glad I read down far enough into the comments to read this one! :)

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MikeMunsterDec 19, 2024, 5:26 AMnegative83%

I had a nightmare that my TV jokes weren't getting a good reception, but it was all just a bad stream. (I was programmed to post this.)

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jmaeagle, wiDec 19, 2024, 2:23 PMnegative89%

@Mike Your nightmare must have been serial. Hope you don't get reruns. If I had another, I'd pilot on.

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RyanThe DistrictDec 19, 2024, 3:22 PMnegative78%

@Mike I’m sorry but I didn’t find that remotely funny (but maybe we’re just not on the same frequency)

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dutchirisberkeleyDec 19, 2024, 6:41 PMnegative67%

@Mike A punster with your high rating doesn't need to track laughs.

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EmilyAustraliaDec 19, 2024, 4:37 AMpositive97%

Being a Swifty pays off! I think this was my first ever Thursday solve where I've actually understood the trick! 📺

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playboi cartiatlanta slatt ! *Dec 20, 2024, 1:16 AMneutral73%

@Emily downvote

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CCNYNYDec 19, 2024, 12:13 PMneutral72%

On the wall across from where I sit on my kitchen couch and solve the puzzles, is a Rumi poem my son wrote on a piece of paper when I was having a rough day, overwhelmed and filled with angst and self-doubt. It was waiting for me on the counter, next to a cup of tea. I know it by heart, but I’ll never take down that (framed) piece of notebook paper with his scribbled writing… This being human is a guest house. Every morning a new arrival. A joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor. Welcome and entertain them all! Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows, who violently sweep your house empty of its furniture, still, treat each guest honorably. He may be clearing you out for some new delight. The dark thought, the shame, the malice, meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in. Be grateful for whoever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond.

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sotto vocepnwDec 19, 2024, 4:14 AMpositive98%

This was a very breezy rebus puzzle which I think will make a great entry point for those who are dipping their feet. The cluing seemed on the easier side as well, but there were some delicious misdirects for a very satisfying crunch. I especially loved [Burning man?] for NERO and [Its home is on the range] for SAUTÉ PAN. To me. this was a very well crafted grid, which I very much enjoyed. Thank you, Mr. Koppy. Your puzzles always delight!

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Mike RDenverDec 19, 2024, 3:43 PMneutral60%

@sotto voce With the SAUTÉ PAN in hand, I thought for a moment that the “Burning man?” might be a friar. Maybe next time…

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ScottSaskatchewanDec 19, 2024, 5:21 AMpositive89%

This was my first clean Thursday solve. I loved it. The rebus became clear pretty quickly when some of the crossers revealed most of velocity and terminal and I knew it couldn't be anything else. I went with a guess that it was going to be TV on all the double clues and it really fell into place after that. It unclear what to do with the rebus squares on mobile. Mine accepted automatically but I'm not sure why or how. I did enter both a T and a V in all the rebus boxes even though the complete puzzle showed "vaylors version" and "vunnel vision" and, particularly amusing, "verminal velocity" which incidentally I think would be funny if clued as "the speed of pests". 😂. All of this is to say the rebus was very satisfying and I'm still fairly new so I think the complainers are being a little dogmatic but hey aren't we all sometimes. Maybe a toggle setting in the options would make people feel better. I certainly do not want to know in advance so it would have to be something individual. Thanks for a fun puzzle. 🥂

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LewisAsheville, NCDec 19, 2024, 1:24 PMpositive80%

A line I love from RUMI: “You are not a drop in the ocean. You are the entire ocean in a drop.” Et tu, emu.

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 19, 2024, 1:47 PMnegative54%

@Lewis Is that not rather pseudoprofound? As in a line that sounds like wisdom but isn't, really?

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PuzzledogSwamplandDec 19, 2024, 3:45 PMneutral58%

@Andrzej It helps if you are familiar with Sufi philosophy, which has some striking similarities to Zen. There's a lot to unpack in what appears to be superficial and glib. YMMV.

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DutchirisberkeleyDec 19, 2024, 11:26 PMneutral68%

@Lewis I misunderstood, or mis- somethinged, the first time I read the two lines, and they resonated in a way that may not have been intended. I had a sense that everything, the entire universe, existed inside me, chasms and alleyways, along with deserts, sky, and oceans, to bear both guilt and glory, and to try hard to plummet the meaning of all of it. Each of us is a universe made up of everything that has ever happened, whether to us alone or to others. How could it be otherwise? When we die, we take it with us, but it still exists in everyone still living.

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LewisAsheville, NCDec 19, 2024, 1:04 PMpositive88%

My favorite moment was when I got fooled. I had filled all but the SE, and there were those three T/V’s in a gorgeous straight line coming down from the NW, so, before filling in anything else in that quadrant, I confidently plopped in another one in square 45 and spent serious time trying to make it work. When I finally saw that it was wrong, I let out a huge “Hah!” at being mightily taken. I get gotten like that often, and my reaction is almost always, “Well played! You got me good!” I love when that happens. Other things I loved today: • An answer set loaded with pop, with one out of every four answers having appeared in the Times puzzle four times or less over its 80+ years. • The fresh grid design, with its not-often-used diagonal symmetry, and with its high number of black squares (even higher than the average Monday) combined with its low word count (equivalent to a Saturday). • ESTATE over ESTATE in the SE. • That clue for ANI, a Times puzzle answer more than 600 times, but never before today with the “no I in team” angle. When there is so much to like, as there was today, I am most grateful. Thank you, Brandon, for making this!

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Jonathan CaligCincinnati, OHDec 19, 2024, 2:39 PMnegative53%

Who else initially had the wrong type of cookware on 28A?

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SteveRapid CityDec 19, 2024, 4:50 PMnegative87%

@Jonathan Calig SAUcEPAN caused the dreaded "Almost There" popup and cost me a few seconds. (Should have spotted ScIR earlier, anyway.)

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NancyNYCDec 19, 2024, 7:51 PMpositive98%

@Jonathan Calig -- Seems there were a whole bunch of SAUcE PANS -- making me feel much, MUCH better about life! :)

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DavidManhattanDec 20, 2024, 12:05 AMnegative88%

Did anyone else have SAUCEPAN instead of SAUTEPAN for a long time? That threw me off more than the rebus.

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MollyBostonDec 20, 2024, 12:13 AMneutral51%

@David yep!

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Maryse42Ontario, CanadaDec 20, 2024, 12:13 AMneutral54%

@David yup!

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HughPhiladelphiaDec 20, 2024, 1:10 AMneutral72%

@David I did. Checked the column to see if I had entered the rebus incorrectly and saw that it was glossed.

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LprNashvilleDec 19, 2024, 5:27 AMpositive98%

I enjoyed the clue for ANI, it made me LOL. Fun rebus.

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SteveRapid CityDec 19, 2024, 4:56 PMpositive54%

I'm 72, and had no problems with this puzzle at all. Now, that doesn't mean I got a personal best--rebuses always give me a bit of a test, but today's was pretty simple. I came here because I figured there would be a lot of complaints re: OHFERS, SIMMS, POSTSUP (basketball players hang out when they post up, too), MAGE, and I wasn't surprised. MAGE is very common in fantasy literature and all sorts of tabletop and video games, by the way.

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TrishOhioDec 19, 2024, 8:29 PMnegative62%

@Stev Good for you—really! I was truly flummoxed. I had the rebuses but not the hint. My fantasy lit is limited to White (really aging myself) and Tolkien so tried SAGE joylessly. I’ve heard of a “magus,” but not MAGE. well, it’s not the end of the world.

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 19, 2024, 5:48 AMpositive93%

What's going on? I used to dread Thursdays, especially rebus ones, but these days, after 18 months of practice, I usually enjoy them! Today was no different - I cought onto the trick and it helped me solve the puzzle. Neat. I looked up three things though - the comedian, the NFL commentator and whatever (actually, whoever, apparently) Charlie brought to the chocolate factory (I've never read/seen that).

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 19, 2024, 6:55 AMneutral48%

Make that four lookups - obviously I did not know OHFERS.

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Pani KorunovaPortugalDec 19, 2024, 7:03 AMneutral50%

@Andrzej I am with you about Thursday! As for GRANDPA, the movie is better known as Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. I am surprised it was/is not as popular in Poland as it was/is in the USA. I can’t ask my husband because although his city is a stone’s throw from the Polish border, he grew up during communism in a, let’s say, less advanced country than Poland. His Polish is fluent, partially because the only television shows and films worth watching were Polish. But apparently, they never aired movies like Willie Wonka, the Wizard of Oz or the Sound of Music.

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JRNYDec 19, 2024, 4:13 PMpositive97%

@Andrzej Thank you for bringing us along on your crossword (and life) journey. I recommend Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, both the book and the original movie (I haven't seen the remake). Also by the same author, Matilda, which was made into a movie and then a Broadway musical, with brilliant music & lyrics by Tim Minchin. I am a fan of Roald Dahl and Tim Minchin, who are from different eras and countries but both bring awareness and humor to difficult (and often ignored) subjects. Enjoy! P.S. Great puzzle, and I loved the reference to Taylor's Version!

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JustinDenverDec 19, 2024, 6:41 AMpositive73%

Thank you to Deb for OHFERS, without which I would’ve been 0-for today. I don’t count it as cheating if Deb looked it up for me.

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Nancy J.NHDec 19, 2024, 11:14 AMpositive66%

Great clues for SAUTE PAN, [It's home is on the range] and GESTATE, [Baby bear?]. With _RAN___ in place, I decided Charlie brought his signature GRANOLA to the chocolate factory. Where do I get these ideas? I got it sorted out pretty quickly, but really, that made no sense.

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RockyNYCDec 19, 2024, 11:46 AMpositive93%

@Nancy J. That made me chuckle 😄

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BNYDec 19, 2024, 1:24 PMneutral83%

@Nancy J. I really thought it should be "granpa" because that's what he calls him in the movie.... (There's only one movie.) ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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ad absurdumchicagoDec 19, 2024, 3:31 PMneutral68%

Fun fact, "The Masked Singer" was the original title of "The Phantom of the Opera". I figured out the cute rebus more quickly than I usually do, but thought the revealer might be something related to tv sets being being referred to as boxes. In a perfect world every single thing you could purchase, whether a saute pan or a sauce pan, a salt spreader or a popsicle, would come in a Taylor's version. (Some of you surely think that would be a travisty)

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BNYDec 19, 2024, 3:37 PMnegative79%

@ad absurdum I hate that I "got" your last typo. :( ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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StrikerShawnDec 19, 2024, 3:50 AMpositive92%

Really great puzzle. A rebus with a twist but the accessible cluing made it pretty easy to spot. TUNNEL VISION tipped me off so I knew it was bidirectional early on but wasn’t sure right away that it would always be TV in the rebus squares. I was slowed slightly by assuming the revealer would be a TV rebus too but worked around it fairly easily and the correct fill came quickly. Now it’s time to finish the Cal Bears game. Currently battling the Running Rebs from SIN CITY! Thanks for the great halftime show, Brandon Koppy!

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Xword JunkieJust west of the DelawareDec 19, 2024, 1:33 PMpositive97%

Nicely done Thursday, with a clever and unusual theme. And a very curious consonant run in PRSTUNT. Liked this one a lot. The thematic layout was interesting in its own right, and the three themers were all sharp: TUNNEL/VISION, TAYLORS/VERSION, TERMINAL/VELOCITY. ESTATE just below GESTATE was a bit unfortunate, but the clue for GESTATE was cute, so we can leave this nit unpicked.

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Linda JoBrunswick, GADec 19, 2024, 3:26 PMneutral56%

@Xword Junkie Now, see, I was thinking of ESTATE as something one builds for the future, not something one leaves behind. So GESTATE ESTATE did not strike me as unfortunate.

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SebastianLondonDec 19, 2024, 6:29 PMpositive50%

That was fun though it took me a while to realise the last bidirectional rebus wasn't TV or did not in fact have two letters. Wasted a lot of time there.

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Peter G.Norfolk, UKDec 19, 2024, 1:42 PMnegative62%

Baseballisms always catch me out.

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KatieMinnesotaDec 19, 2024, 2:16 PMnegative54%

@Peter G. I don't know why, but baseball seems to have more weirdly specific, hard-to-understand terms than any other sport. Other than golf, maybe. Birdie? Eagle? I'd rather watch football--either kind.

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiDec 19, 2024, 2:22 PMpositive71%

@Peter G. Throw in a few items about cricket.... great way to get even! Dorothy Sayers tried to explain it in one of her mysteries, but I read those books in the late 60s/early 70's.....

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KenMadison WIDec 19, 2024, 7:13 PMnegative72%

I really wanted it to be saucepan and had no idea what a scir was 😕

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AmyCTDec 19, 2024, 7:25 PMneutral83%

@Ken And oddly, I just did an archive puzzle from April 1996, and "saucepan" was an answer.

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DocPAlbertaDec 20, 2024, 2:33 AMnegative41%

Alas, my streak ended at 370 days. Not becuase of this puzzle, but I didn't get to finish Sunday's puzzle because of life. My grandma just passed away, and I'm thankful I got to spend an hour holding her hand in the ICU, and even more thankful for everything that's she's done for me over the years. Not even 2 months ago, she stopped by work to bring me my favorite dessert for Diwali. I've been so hell bent on maintaining my streak (kudos to those who can, but it takes a LOT of work and focus) that I think that I've lost track of the bigger picture. The crossword is a passtime, and it's not the end of the world if I don't get my gold star, as long as I'm using that time spent with loved ones and making memories. At the end of the day, I won't remember each crossword I did (although I am proud of my streak), but I will remember the time spent with family and the memories made. I will restart my efforts for another streak, but this time, I don't think I will ignore the other things in life just to make it happen.

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HeathieJSt. Paul, MNDec 20, 2024, 2:48 AMpositive66%

@DocP Amen! And my sincerest condolences for your deep loss. I hope the crossword will bring you comfort, along with precious memories of your grandma! ❤️

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GBKDec 20, 2024, 3:53 AMpositive72%

@DocP My longest streak ended shy of 365 days, also because of life, but for reasons far less profound. It was a shock when the streak ended, but I too am relieved to be less beholden to the effort (though I do get caught up in it when I'm on a bit of a run!). Hopefully you can continue to find joy and even solace in the crossword - and you should be proud of a 370 day streak! How great is it that you were able to spend that precious last hour with your grandma. May your Diwali sweets be all that much sweeter with her memory (the next time around)!

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 20, 2024, 4:49 AMpositive94%

@DocP I've been enjoying these crosswords much more since I stopped caring about my streak. I hope you will find comfort in a more laid back approach, too 🙂

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NowhinersSoCalDec 19, 2024, 3:38 AMpositive48%

I like how rebuses help me move more quickly through the clues, but then I’m sad that it’s all over so soon. Lol. Enjoyed the baby bear clue and photo! Thanks!

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Marshall WalthewArdmoreDec 19, 2024, 3:39 AMpositive90%

A nice little Thursday rebus, which I solved steadily, in an average fashion. The placement of the three paired answers was rather elegant as the three TVs were in a diagonal line. I was helped greatly by watching too much TV and knowing JEONG and SIMMS right off the bat. I put in obit for say no more(which in retrospect makes no sense) and had to hunt out that mistake at the end.

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ShanMesa, AZDec 19, 2024, 4:34 AMpositive53%

There's nothing quite like the satisfaction of solving a tricky Thursday puzzle. It reminds me a little bit of the story problems we used to get in elementary school, and the feeling I had when I saw how to translate them into an equation. I went wrong in so many ways before I got to the end. I spent some time trying to decide whether voRMINAL VELOCITY was a thing (I had ifSo for the coding answer, what can I say?) This was one of the few times I solved the revealer before I got any of the theme answers, and the revealer clued me in so I could get the rest. SIN CITY was almost the last thing I filled in; I was trying to think if I'd ever heard a nickname for Wayne Newton or Celine Dion. I was proud of myself for guessing the Taylor Swift answer, never having seen one of her albums. Never heard of POSTS UP either - guess I should go look that up now. Hand up for SAUcEPAN instead of SAUTE PAN for a good long time.

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Sam Lyonsroaming the Old WorldDec 19, 2024, 4:54 AMneutral91%

@Shan I think that the clue means hang out in the sense of hanging out something (like, say, a shingle) vs. hanging out with someone. If you hang out something for others to see, you could be said to be posting it up.

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TMDSonoma SomewhereDec 19, 2024, 6:06 AMneutral90%

@Shan It's a basketball term. An offensive player takes 'a post' or position near the basket and holds that position against the defense, while waiting to get the ball passed to them. Here's a clear tutorial video for young players: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvl980x11Jk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvl980x11Jk</a> I thought it was a bit unfair to have a basketball term next to the baseball term (ohfers).

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Pani KorunovaPortugalDec 19, 2024, 6:36 AMneutral82%

@Shan it’s not used in the basketball sense or hanging something out. I’m 100% sure it means exactly what it says — hangs out — because I use the term casually. I probably got it from my GenZ/Baby Millennial kids. “Vinny POSTSUP sometimes at Gianni’s crib because it’s close to campus.”

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NickTokyoDec 19, 2024, 12:09 PMneutral79%

@Shan ELSE, with similar clueing, has appeared on a handful of occasions in puzzles in recent months. It’s a fairly elementary concept in computer programming, and the majority of languages that are used nowadays support it, usually using that exact keyword as part of the language’s syntax. The key is the “catchall” part. You could imagine a rudimentary program that asks the user to type in their name and then displays a response based on what they enter, rendered in pseudocode below. print “What is your name?” // Displays the prompt. name = getUserInput() // Takes whatever the user types in and assigns it to (stores it in) a part of the computer’s memory that is arbitrarily labeled “name” for ease of reading the code IF name == “Bob”: // Performs first test print “Hi, Bob! Nice name. That’s short for Robert, right?” // Output if first test passed ELSE IF name == “Alice”: //Performs second test print “Hi, Alice! Nice name. Did you just return from Wonderland?” // Output if second test passed ELSE: // Catchall for all other cases, if both the preceding tests fail print “Hi, “ + name + “! I’ve never heard that one before. It sounds nice.” // Output if the user entered anything other than “Bob” or “Alice” The last, catchall ELSE (not followed by IF) is important because it’s almost always impossible for a programmer to anticipate every possible condition that could occur in a program or script that accepts external input (or is even just large and complicated).

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Lauren FordThe Hudson LineDec 19, 2024, 12:46 PMneutral80%

@Shan hmm wonder if posting up is regional. My husband introduced me to the phrase years ago and we most often post up at coffee shops and sometimes bars.

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JayTeeKissimmeeDec 19, 2024, 4:28 PMneutral71%

Didn't take long to figure out there was a rebus involved, and not much longer to figure out that the rebus involved one letter for each direction. Then it also took a moment to figure out that the revealer did NOT have a rebus… Clever puzzle that took me a little longer than usual, however, it was late and I was tired… Thanks, Brandon!

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AmyCTDec 19, 2024, 5:17 PMpositive86%

Nicely done. Got the rebus idea early. Didn't want to give up on SAUcEPAN for a hot minute. Had preen before PRIMP, random before MOTLEY. But it all came together. Judging by the number of comments, there may be a kerfuffle!

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SarahPhiladelphiaDec 19, 2024, 4:26 AMpositive72%

Sticky treats made me groan audibly. Fun puzzle!

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LprNashvilleDec 19, 2024, 5:31 AMneutral48%

@Sarah What's brown and sticky? . . . A stick. My favorite kid joke ever.

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Lauren FordThe Hudson LineDec 19, 2024, 12:50 PMpositive77%

@Lpr ohhh! I just got the other way lol. Thanks

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G UptonQueensDec 19, 2024, 3:49 AMnegative60%

OHFERS seems odd with an H. Isn’t the phrase an “O-fer”?

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYDec 19, 2024, 4:09 AMneutral75%

@G Upton ` That's what I thought, too, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it written. Considering that the O stands for a zero, it makes more sense than OH.

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JessRichmond, VADec 19, 2024, 4:40 AMneutral78%

@G Upton, it seems to be spelled "Ohfer" anywhere I found it used on the internet. But there was no explanation I could find of its etymology. Since it is defined as "futile" batting statlines, maybe it's short for "Oh, fer chrissakes."

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Patrick JSydney Aus.Dec 19, 2024, 5:32 AMneutral83%

@G Upton. Could be that it comes from reading the number 0 (zero or nought) as the letter O (Oh). Here we see this a lot in telephone numbers. The already mentioned “Oh fer…” adds resonance.

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Mike RDenverDec 19, 2024, 3:55 PMneutral69%

@G Upton I’ll accept any reasonable OHFER.

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TMDSonoma SomewhereDec 19, 2024, 4:29 AMpositive75%

In honor of the echidna, the Zappa classic composition from 1973, Echidna's Arf set to some ancient Disney cartoon footage: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOC_LO8UMlw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOC_LO8UMlw</a> Probably not most people's taste, but an amazing composition and performance by an incredible group of virtuosos. If anybody makes it to the end I'll listen to the Swift link elsewhere in the comments. :-) P.S. "Screen Shares" are of typically monitors or laptop screens, probably very few if any are TVs. Other than that nit a fun xword.

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYDec 19, 2024, 4:44 AMneutral71%

@TMD I thought about the same thing as your PS. On the other hand, I'm literally reading this column on a TV monitor that I use as one of my desktop's screens.

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LprNashvilleDec 19, 2024, 5:25 AMneutral92%

@TMD SCREEN SHARES is a "hint" to the rebus. Not a literal screen share. The T/V are sharing a TV screen 📺

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HardrochLow CountryDec 19, 2024, 4:14 PMpositive96%

@TMD Wow, thank you for reminding me of that classic by FZ. There are several versions out there , including one with all strings. One of the nicest covers I think is from the early 2000’s by his son Dweezil’s band, from the “Zappa plays Zappa” collection. It’s worth a peak and the accompanying notes are interesting. See: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/5n7ub43d" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/5n7ub43d</a>

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Mark, from BARTSF Peninsula, CADec 19, 2024, 7:16 PMpositive96%

@TMD Percussionist Ruth Underwood certainly shines throughout that album. Never knew the song's title before, it would have helped in my solving.

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AnitaNYCDec 19, 2024, 4:33 AMpositive94%

A clever and well executed rebus. I really like how the T/V phrases progress in length from 6 letters to 7 to 8. Well done, Brandon! Total Vibes

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Pani KorunovaPortugalDec 19, 2024, 6:53 AMpositive64%

Olá! Fun one! I agree that Thursdays are not as scary as they ONCE were. In fact, last Sunday’s puzzle is the only one to cause DISMAY in the past couple weeks. What’s happening?!? This may cause a STIR but I was trying so hard to get Beyoncé in 22A. Yes, I’m a STAN, a casual member of the “Beyhive” but I don’t usually sting 🐝 like some of her more rabid fans do. I just think she’s awesome 👏🏾 . I was so sad to miss her when she came to Barcelona, a short and cheap flight away. TAYLOR(’)S pretty cool, too 😄. SIMMS came back to try to vex me as if included here by some nefarious MAGE. Luckily, through crossings, I got it without any help. Same with OHFERS, which seemed wrong all the way to the end. I always spell Ken’s name with a “u” but that would not only be ODD but also incorrect. In fact it would be “udd” 🤣 One day I’m going to review the Greek alphabet so I can stop guessing!

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AllisonDenver, CODec 19, 2024, 6:30 PMpositive96%

This felt like a puzzle designed for me! Normally I struggle with some of the niche trivia like proper nouns and sports stuff, but this puzzle was right up my alley. Thanks to Sonic (and specifically Knuckles) for my echidna knowledge, lol. Fun and pleasant Thursday.

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Jamiein Las CrucesDec 19, 2024, 7:36 PMneutral87%

@Allison I know "echnidna" from They Might Be Giants's song "Mammal," "The fox, the ox, giraffe and shrew, echidna, caribou . . ."

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYDec 19, 2024, 3:17 AMneutral63%

TAYLOR'S VERSION + POSTS UP can only add up to one thing: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zqJs7JUCQ" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3zqJs7JUCQ</a> I figured I'd POST it before anyone else got the idea.

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BillIndianaDec 19, 2024, 1:54 PMpositive95%

This was fun. As usual I solved the puzzle in order to figure out the theme rather than using the theme to solve the puzzle. This is almost always the quickest route for me (last Sunday being an exception). Themes seem contrived, this one a little more than usual. Loved “It’s home is on the range”. Went from ANTELOPE to SAUCEPAN to SAUTEPAN

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John CarsonJersey CoastDec 19, 2024, 2:49 PMpositive63%

Spent way too much time trying to make a T/V rebus work in the reveal pairing so that corner took a bit to come into focus. Nicely done and many thanks.

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GrantDelawareDec 19, 2024, 4:04 PMpositive98%

I'm pretty darn good at solving these rebus puzzles. Does that make me a rebúste? Whatever, I'm claiming it. I found today's quite clever, by the way.

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BetsyAuburn ALDec 19, 2024, 4:00 AMpositive98%

Relatively quick Thursday puzzle — but fun nonetheless. Always enjoy a rebus surprise! (Except for the kind in that one puzzle that shall-not-be-named)

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Jim in Forest Hillsnew yorkDec 19, 2024, 12:33 PMpositive76%

OHFERS was new for me -- glad i wasn't the only one.. I am getting used to seeing STAN in the puzzle grid. Had SAUCEPAN and hated to give it up, but so be it. Scratched my head a bit over GESTATE but all's well. For a change in a Thursday puzzle I got the theme right away. TUNNEL VISION and TAYLORS VERSION sealed the deal. Fun challenging puzzle. Well done

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GGSalisbury MDDec 19, 2024, 1:00 PMneutral48%

@Jim in Forest Hills Saucepan hung me up for the longest time!

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Paul MBrooklyn, NYDec 19, 2024, 1:11 PMnegative92%

@Jim in Forest Hills I had saucepan also and i finally gave up which annoys me, because I should have gotten it from STIR! Grrr!

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BillDetroitDec 19, 2024, 1:00 PMneutral79%

" . . . ., but there is one in 'Bill': it's right in the middle, and usually spelled with a capital letter." (Said often during work department meetings. See note.) Which reminds me--Today is the last of FML: I return to the work grind tomorrow, so a much lower Wordplay presence in the days ahead. note: "That sauté pan is mine! Don't you even think of touching it!" (We are, in fact, each "issued" our own set of skillets; and I'm not the only one who keeps theirs in their locker, when not using them, for safe keeping.)

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RozzieGrandmaRoslindale MADec 19, 2024, 2:40 PMnegative86%

@Bill Sorry to hear that apparently some of your fellow cooks can't be trusted not to mess up the seasoning on your pans. or is it just that each of you has a unique version?

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Linda JoBrunswick, GADec 19, 2024, 1:46 PMneutral66%

So tiny, barely a rebus. Maybe, rebusesque. No secrets, Sam dove right in with telling us it was a rebus puzzle. Might such a forthright column cut down on the rebus-hating comments today? It could tell us how many people read the column before commenting. I got the trick right away with 11A/D as the downs spelled out _UNNEL. But it did hang me up for a while, looking for a T/V answer to 45A/D. A bit chewy due to the unknown comedian, queen, and sports terms. And not knowing how to spell ECHIDNAS. Tickled at the thought of building a new house. GESTATE ESTATE

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Linda JoBrunswick, GADec 19, 2024, 3:24 PMnegative49%

@Linda Jo Ooops, Deb wrote today's column. So far, not much of the usual rebus hatin'. My hangup with 28A was that I was looking for a person, something-man, because I had guessed that Charlie had brought his GRANDmA. SAUTEmAN didn't sound like the rugged westerner I'd find on a range with the antelope.

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KatiePortlandDec 20, 2024, 1:29 AMpositive96%

I loved today's puzzle. If anything it was a little quick for a Thursday! The rebus was obvious on my first pass because I was surprised TAYLORS VERSION was correct, but it took a bit more fill to understand how it would fit. It's so odd to see so many people complain here whenever there is a rebus. Or even complain at all.

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dutchirisberkeleyDec 19, 2024, 4:47 AMpositive59%

Everything in the puzzle fell into place easily, once TUNNEL VISION took a bow. I had one look-up, the "Masked Singer" person, because I have never even so much as glimpsed that show. Fixed the ECkIDNAS, added /s to the rebuses, and now I am left with this formerly delightful puzzle which has become a deep source of DISMAY. I will continue to search for the error, but I think I will never find it. Anyone else in the same fix? Then pass the crow, and LETS EAT (You do a beautiful puzzle Brandon Koppy, and I had a really good time until I was faced with the masked error. Thank you. The fault isn't ours, it's mine.)

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dutchirisberkeleyDec 19, 2024, 5:17 AMneutral64%

@dutchiris Found at last, but with the help of reveal. Stared at it, and realized the square only needed an S and I had written TVS. (Wake up, self. Pay attention.)

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LprNashvilleDec 19, 2024, 5:21 AMpositive69%

@dutchiris Ken Jeong is perhaps more famous for his feature film debut in The Hangover where he leaps from the trunk of a car completely naked except for boots. Now that would have been a good clue. Jeong was actually a practicing physician before he transitioned into acting. He's pretty hilarious.

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DianaScotlandDec 19, 2024, 5:33 AMpositive97%

The theme clicked right into place for me as a Swiftie as soon as I saw the clue for TAYLOR’S VERSION on my first pass. Solid puzzle!

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Zee MannBurke, VirDec 19, 2024, 11:57 AMneutral64%

Forgot it was Thursday, so I was off to a slow start recognizing the rebus. I wonder, how many had SAUCEpan before SAUTÉpan?

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mjtwBerlinDec 19, 2024, 12:12 PMneutral50%

@Zee Mann I was convinced that SAUCEPAN must be correct, and only realized my mistake through the crossing of STIR and DIRT...

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Barry AnconaNew York NYDec 19, 2024, 12:45 PMneutral91%

"I wonder, how many had SAUCEpan before SAUTÉpan?" There is quite a thread on that subject that started last night. You might want to scroll down for a read.

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BNYDec 19, 2024, 1:11 PMneutral78%

@Zee Mann Strange, sauce pan didn't even enter my mind until I read it here. ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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KatieMinnesotaDec 19, 2024, 2:10 PMpositive72%

I have a theory: the sleepier I am when I solve a puzzle, the easier the theme comes to me. I got this one pretty quickly, thanks to TAYLOR'S VERSION. I don't care for Taylor Swift, but she is literally everywhere and has permeated my brain, apparently. However, when sleepy, I tend to forget facts I'd otherwise remember, like that Coco Gauff plays tennis, not golf. (Gauff? Golf? No?)

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LJADZNYCDec 19, 2024, 3:14 PMnegative68%

Weird puzzle. Not on this guy's wavelength at all

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RemySan DiegoDec 19, 2024, 10:16 PMpositive98%

OMG, the polar bear cub! 🥰

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PEMdocTexasDec 19, 2024, 3:55 AMneutral71%

“OK, OK! I’ll learn that Echnidas are spelled with an H and not a K.”

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