Wednesday, December 18, 2024

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MichaelSFBayDec 18, 2024, 6:06 AMpositive97%

This was, in my memory, the best crafted crossword in the NYT in *quite* a while. To me, at least, it seemed exceptionally tight in its construction. The fact that the clue/answer pairs worked both ways, both with the trick and without, was *really* nice. Note to constructors: This was an example of cleverness meeting elegance. Bravi to the constructors!

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MikeMunsterDec 18, 2024, 4:21 AMneutral75%

I wasn't sure if I was going to see you frolicking in the meadow, but I took a gambol. (Still, it's pasture bedtime.)

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Al in PittsburghPittsburgh, PADec 18, 2024, 5:23 AMneutral85%

@Mike Gray's Analogy: "The lowing herd wind slowly o'er the lea" I'd bet it was neither a frolic nor gambol. Just bedtime in the country churchyard: "Beneath those rugged elms, that yew-tree's shade, Where heaves the turf in many a mould'ring heap, Each in his narrow cell for ever laid, The rude forefathers of the hamlet sleep." <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44299/elegy-written-in-a-country-churchyard" target="_blank">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44299/elegy-written-in-a-country-churchyard</a>

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KatieMinnesotaDec 18, 2024, 2:28 PMpositive96%

@Mike As always, you're a man outstanding in his field.

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LewisAsheville, NCDec 18, 2024, 3:06 AMneutral78%

My five favorite original clues from last week (in order of appearance): 1. Fly ball? (5) 2. Word after one fell? (5) 3. Contribute to a company, say (3) 4. Garden-variety poker? (5) 5. A little bit of everything? (6) SWARM SWOOP ACT THORN SESAME

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BNYDec 18, 2024, 4:23 AMpositive50%

@Lewis Largely agreed. To my taste #2 is far superior, followed by #1 and then maybe #3. The others, while good, aren't really in the same class... ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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LewisAsheville, NCDec 18, 2024, 1:11 PMpositive96%

A few words about stuckness in solving a crossword puzzle. I love it for two reasons. First, when the answer finally comes I feel happy and proud and good. And second, the kind of brainwork involved in getting from stuck to unstuck – that makes my brain come alive in a most wonderful way. I came across this poem by Wendell Berry, not written about crosswording per se, but it so beautifully applies to that second point. I’m hoping some readers here will relate to it as I did, grateful for its beauty and wisdom: THE REAL WORK It may be that when we no long know what to do we have come to our real work and that when we no longer know which way to go we have come to our real journey The mind that is not baffled is not employed The impeded stream is the one that sings

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiDec 18, 2024, 2:51 PMneutral83%

@Lewis I take it you're doing the puzzles you missed whilst away..... Be sure to read the Comments from the 15th.

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Helen WrightNow In Somerset UKDec 18, 2024, 3:28 PMpositive98%

@Lewis I love the poem. Thank you for sharing it.

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The Poet McTeagleCaliforniaDec 18, 2024, 3:56 PMpositive96%

@Lewis Beautiful. Thank you!

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Rusty WheelhouseSwitzerlandDec 18, 2024, 3:56 PMpositive97%

@Lewis Thank you so much, Lewis, for sharing this graceful gem.

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CCNYNYDec 18, 2024, 4:57 PMpositive94%

@Lewis Wowza. The poem gave me chills. Every year, in order to *earn* our gifts from my mother, we have to read or recite a poem. Thank you for giving me this gem that I’ll share with my family next week. And my midlife crisis also thanks you for feeling understood and even hopeful.

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WilkLiverpool, UKDec 18, 2024, 9:59 AMneutral66%

Absolutely everything I know about baseball comes from doing this crossword.

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiDec 18, 2024, 3:20 PMpositive94%

@Wilk Wow. That's pretty cool. (I feel the same way about French) Another tack would be to go live in Ohio from April to October...

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Marshall WalthewArdmoreDec 18, 2024, 3:25 AMpositive98%

Nicely put together puzzle with a cute revealer. I liked morel support as the clue for STEM. Bonus points for working in the word CINEASTE

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Eric HouglandDurango CODec 18, 2024, 3:48 AMneutral64%

@Marshall Walthew This is only the third time CINEASTE has been in a NYT puzzle. You’d think all those vowels would make it attractive to constructors.

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BNYDec 18, 2024, 4:16 AMneutral70%

@Marshall Walthew And right next to it another robust, and underused, word, morose. ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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AndrewLouisvilleDec 18, 2024, 2:29 PMneutral57%

Morel support? and Sending help? were worth the price of admission.

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Indiana BeeBloomington, IndianaDec 18, 2024, 3:23 AMpositive99%

This was great fun! I loved the Mendel clue and answer(s).

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HardrochLow CountryDec 18, 2024, 3:35 PMpositive93%

@Indiana Bee Yes, GREENPEAS brought me a smile. Reminded me of last 6/22/2024 when the clue was [Plants used in early genetics experiments] which solved to SWEETPEAS. It created quite the stir with discussion of species of pea plants, Punnett Squares, and Jolly Green Giant frozen “sweet peas”. This time they kept it simple, just like last month’s reference to Pisum Sativum ,11/9/2024.

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 18, 2024, 7:48 AMpositive93%

I enjoyed this puzzle, even though initially I was put off by the multiple trivia entries, especially the trivia nexus in the NW. In the end I needed only two lookups. I managed to recall many answers I have learned from NYT puzzles over the past 18 months, like RADON TESTS (unknown in Poland, as far as I know) and RBI. Good to know my memory is better than I usually think it is. The theme was pretty neat.

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David ConnellWeston CTDec 18, 2024, 11:57 AMneutral56%

@Andrzej - This photo shows a permanent radon detector at Warsaw University! <a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Stanowisko_pomiaru_radonu_glebowego_wf_pw.jpg" target="_blank">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Stanowisko_pomiaru_radonu_glebowego_wf_pw.jpg</a>

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CCNYNYDec 18, 2024, 12:10 PMneutral37%

Odd puzzle. Evenly clued. Oddly enjoyable. Even entertaining! I don’t feel like I did after thanksgiving day dessert- PaInEd. (It’s early. And I’m not nearly as clever as Jeffrey and Will.)

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiDec 18, 2024, 2:59 PMpositive61%

@CCNY I knew you'd be here... And I knew you'd do that!

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ChrisEnglandDec 18, 2024, 8:19 AMpositive99%

Just finished, incredible. Couldn't be more delighted. Besides the themed clues being works of art, I'd like to thank the constructor for 'morel support'. I think I'm in love.

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ad absurdumchicagoDec 18, 2024, 3:12 PMnegative80%

THIS AWFUL PUZZLE OBJECTIVELY WAS NOT REALLY THAT CREATIVE [Reaction to this crossword that could be a themer if the theme referred to words instead of letters] And if you're wondering which one was my reaction, consider that I'm nothing if not odd.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYDec 18, 2024, 5:15 PMneutral54%

ad absurdum, The L you say!

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LewisAsheville, NCDec 18, 2024, 12:53 PMpositive89%

Language quirks like what Jeffrey and Will found set me agog as a kid, and still do today. I jawdrop and “Huh!” at finds like this. Then, when they are all tied together with a revealer that perfectly lands, and set in a grid with spark like CINEASTE and FRAZZLE, and clean as a whistle, I slowly nod side to side with respect and gratitude. I wish EASES had been EESES, which would have been a stellar revealer for the mini-theme of double-E’s, of which there are eight. Oh, and I did love [Morel support] for stem. Double bravo on that. Thank you, Jeffrey and Will. Your puzzle started my day with a big “Ain’t life grand?”, and that is a gift!

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LewisAsheville, NCDec 18, 2024, 12:56 PMneutral44%

And @Sam Corbin: "I can't even." -- Hah! Et tu, emu.

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suejeanHarrogate, North YorkshireDec 18, 2024, 11:35 AMpositive98%

I like a puzzle with a lot of theme entries, so had fun with this one. It also seemed just about right for a Wednesday . I bet Jeffrey and Will could do a great Thursday puzzle as well.

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 18, 2024, 12:06 PMpositive98%

@suejean Its been a great week so far, hasn't it? I hope it lasts! [For our American friends: Polish weeks begin on Monday.]

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Cat Lady MargaretMaineDec 18, 2024, 3:37 AMneutral87%

So these are sort of like kangaroo words, right? Except the subset word isn’t quite a synonym of the whole, but it’s congruent to the whole via a common clue they share. What should this be called: Wombat words? Koala words? Bandicoot words?

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYDec 18, 2024, 3:56 AMneutral90%

@Cat Lady Margaret Oddonyms?

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BNYDec 18, 2024, 4:10 AMneutral94%

@Cat Lady Margaret Symbiotes? ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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CCNYNYDec 18, 2024, 1:43 PMneutral75%

@Cat Lady Margaret Leapfroggles. Obviously. 🐸

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ChrisEnglandDec 18, 2024, 8:07 AMnegative38%

I just got 18 and 20 across and I'm SO IMPRESSED. I filled 18 (thanks, A-level biology) and said 'Really?! No way!' out loud, and confirmed the theme with 20. This is surely a hall-of-famer.

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Charles Nelson ReillyNYCDec 18, 2024, 3:44 AMpositive96%

Lots of fun, some tricky cluing. Never thought I’d see Sylvan ESSO in a crossword!

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Eric HouglandDurango CODec 18, 2024, 3:50 AMneutral90%

@Charles Nelson Reilly I’ve seen Sylvan ESSO at least once before in a crossword puzzle, but it was probably the New Yorker.

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ClareThe WestDec 18, 2024, 3:47 AMpositive98%

Delightful!

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BNYDec 18, 2024, 4:04 AMpositive65%

This went very fast, and I regret it, because the theme was so cleverly done. I wish the overall puzzle were a bit harder so I had more time to savor how good the double "odd" answers were. The rest of it felt like a Monday to me. We are fortunate to have such clever constructors featured here (most of the time if you catch my drift without directly raising how bad Sunday's puzzle was again). :) Good work, and thanks. ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 18, 2024, 10:49 AMneutral52%

@B With a harder fill I would have struggled, so things are back to normal - we largely disagree :D. I wanted to avoid lookups altogether but trivia-central in the NW broke me - I googled OHARE, and then I used google to resolve the naticky crossing of T_A and _REES. I suppose I knew TBA, but the crossing with a US sportsperson triggered me - the sports clues are among ones I enjoy the least in NYT puzzles. In part I am with you though: the theme was great and perfectly implemented.

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Rich in AtlantaAustell, GeorgiaDec 18, 2024, 10:56 AMpositive96%

Wow. Typical Wednesday workout for me. Managed to finish it but have to admit that I remained puzzled about the theme until I stopped and pondered for a while. What a great 'aha' moment when it finally dawned on me. Can't help but wonder how many other possibilities there could be. I mean - every one of these with the alternate letters. That's just amazing. Oh, and of course I'll put my puzzle find today in a reply. ...

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Rich in AtlantaAustell, GeorgiaDec 18, 2024, 11:06 AMneutral95%

@Rich in Atlanta As threatened: A Sunday from April 21, 1996 by M. Gaffney with the title: "Manana." A couple of theme clues and answers: "TV show on delayed broadcast?" SUNDAYNIGHTLIVE "1985 pop hit released behind schedule?" MANICTUESDAY "Mick Jagger's late girlfriend?" RUBYWEDNESDAY And some other theme answers: SUPERBOWLMONDAY MAUNDYFRIDAY ASHTHURSDAY Here's the Xword Info link: <a href="https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=4/21/1996&g=33&d=D" target="_blank">https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=4/21/1996&g=33&d=D</a> ....

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M&MEast VillageDec 18, 2024, 1:26 PMpositive97%

A very satisfying puzzle, particularly in light of recent offerings. This puzzle offers two different theme answers for each starred clue! All of them provide elegant sets of answers. Knew we were gonna be thrilled when we ran into Mendel. And of course if you're stuck all the crosses work out smoothly as well. A good tight puzzle reveals even more ways to solve as you proceed. As you proceed, your work should continue to confirm that you are on the right track. That is why the crosses are so important in a 'crossword puzzle'. They provide a cross check. Any puzzle that eliminates the opportunity to use the crosses is by definition inelegant. This puzzle was a great example of breezy fun. Thank you to Jeffrey & Will

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RickDWilmington, DEDec 18, 2024, 3:39 AMpositive98%

Clever and fun. Well done.

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Patrick J.Sydney Aus.Dec 18, 2024, 4:44 AMneutral86%

A couple of quibbles about a fun puzzle. 1A: while POSY might now have expanded in meaning to include “flower” (c.f. MW, but not recognised by the OED) at the time of creation of the rhyme, no later than 1840, it had only its original meaning of “small bunch of flowers.” This makes for a disagreement in number between clue and answer. 23A: the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification has been concerned with UAPs (Unexplained anomalous phenomenon) since 2023

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Bill in YokohamaYokohamaDec 18, 2024, 9:47 AMneutral90%

@Patrick J. My first guess for 23A was NEO (near earth objects)

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OikofugeScotlandDec 18, 2024, 11:30 AMneutral88%

@Patrick J. Yes, I had UAP, and only grudgingly switched to UFO. Out of curiosity, if POSY is a singular flower in AmE, is it associated with a particular blossom, or is it considered as just a quaint synonym for "flower"?

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiDec 18, 2024, 2:43 PMneutral58%

I feel like I'm seeing spots....This is clever construction, and it's not Jeffrey Martinovic's and Will Nediger's fault if the messy-looking grid makes it heard to look at.... Then again.... New word: CINEASTE.... perfect for the dustbin. YUTZ? Oy. I've never heard of "The Texas Triangle" despite having lived in that state, but "southwest" and SAN- were pretty good hints. We spent a whole summer there *without a/c* in 1956, when our dad had TDY at Ft. Sam Houston. This was so long ago that the newspaper vending arrangement was a cigar box on top of a stack of papers, for folks to drop their coins in. RADON LEVEL had to be revised... Last night I watched Sherrod Brown's farewell speech on the floor of the Senate chamber. For me, he will always be more than a FOOTNOTE.

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Mark CousinsPortland, Ore.Dec 18, 2024, 5:57 AMpositive47%

Great puzzle! Enjoyed very much. But another quibble: “ROGER” (5D) in radio communications means only that the person saying it -received- the prior message. It doesn’t indicate comprehension, compliance, agreement, or anything beyond reception. So “understood” isn’t an accurate clue. Mark (pilot and occasional user of “roger” 😊)

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JustinDenverDec 18, 2024, 6:02 AMneutral89%

We have clearance, Clarence. Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?

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SteveLondonDec 18, 2024, 6:39 AMnegative66%

@Mark Cousins ... and being an archer just means you can pick up a bow and arrow, it doesn't mean you're any good at it.

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NoraFranceDec 18, 2024, 9:59 AMneutral55%

@Steve You missed half of the answer, ACES is inside the word.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYDec 18, 2024, 12:38 PMneutral85%

Mark Cousins, "Roger that." (Cringes)

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Sam Lyonsroaming the Old WorldDec 18, 2024, 7:42 AMneutral65%

When you think about it, Drew TREES is a much better name for a guy: GREEN (like PEAS), in a way, and so artistically evocative. You see, an uncaffeinated mind CONSIDERs THE ODDS of TBA being the answer to “Check back later,” in brief, and discards it because it’s stuck on textspeak for some just-now-torn-from-a-REM-cycle reason. “What’s another way of saying TTYL,” said mind muses, patting itself on the back in ways heretofore unknown to neuroanatomists as it affirms to itself that it would never, ever but ever, use textspeak itself. Even if it had fingers. Which it doesn’t, self-administered back-slapping notwithstanding. Because it is an elusive and diaphanous mystery that defies anatomical reduction and scoffs at the sterile logic of Cartesian dualism, spun as it is from the gossamer threads of the cosmos itself— Ah, sorry about that. Coffee truly is a prerequisite for coherent posting. Anyhow, “If not TTYL, surely TTA has been used for Talk To [ya] After?” says my sleepy mind. And immediately answers (again, this us all pre-morning-coffee), “Sure it has.” And that’s how my puzzle came to take an extra x minutes of flyspecking until an old echo of hubby’s NFL games blaring out of the family room offered up Drew BREES. A shoutout to my adopted hometown, Seattle, and a goodnight to my fellow WordplayASTEs. Time to start the day.

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VaerBrooklynDec 18, 2024, 12:12 PMpositive98%

Always happy to see an Eeyore reference in the puzzle. Enjoyed the chewiness of this puzzle and I admit to getting stuck in the SAW/WORSE corner. Thanks guys.

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Linda JoBrunswick, GADec 18, 2024, 1:54 PMpositive95%

Morel support? tickled my funny bone. Odds are, our fungi Mike will have the puns mushrooming up. Thanks, Jeffrey and Will, for a quick and lively Wednesday puzzle.

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiDec 18, 2024, 2:47 PMpositive71%

@Linda Jo Another contender for Resident Punster, along with our Canadian pal, eh? Go, Georgia gal!!

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JayTeeKissimmeeDec 18, 2024, 2:53 PMpositive99%

Fun and interesting, oddly enough. Nice job, guys!

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Helen WrightNow In Somerset UKDec 18, 2024, 3:31 PMpositive99%

A thoroughly enjoyable Wednesday outing. Just crunchy enough to make me pause occasionally, with a lovely Aha feeling when I got the theme. Delightful.

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shmeelscocox, ivy and jennaDec 18, 2024, 10:54 PMneutral81%

@Helen Wright meet me in cabot yeah

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AManilaDec 18, 2024, 3:34 AMpositive98%

I plugged in ARCHERS before getting to the revealer - so seeing ACES was so fun Thank you Jeffrey and Will !

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Red CarpetSt PaulDec 18, 2024, 3:36 AMnegative43%

Great Wednesday puzzle. But also worried about what that means for tomorrow. 23 hours until we are intentionally deceived.

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CTavLondonDec 18, 2024, 7:48 AMpositive94%

I enjoyed this puzzle a lot, but cinéaste really primarily means filmmaker - not film buff.

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Bill in YokohamaYokohamaDec 18, 2024, 9:43 AMneutral55%

@CTav I kept wondering if there was a rebus as I couldn't fit cinephile in there.

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NoraFranceDec 18, 2024, 9:56 AMneutral83%

@Bill in Yokohama I first tried cinefile... heck it might be spelled that way somewhere. Or maybe not.

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYDec 18, 2024, 12:26 PMneutral89%

@CTav Cinéaste does primarily mean filmmaker—in French. The accent mark gives it away. In English, though, CINEAST(E) primarily means film buff: <a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cineast" target="_blank">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cineast</a> If the answer were in French, there would be a foreign language signal.

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Vitruvian MansplainerNC USADec 18, 2024, 3:04 PMneutral86%

@CTav First definition at OED is "a lover of films or cinema." At M-W it's "a devotee of movies".

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Nancy J.NHDec 18, 2024, 10:27 AMpositive98%

Jeffrey and Will are another dynamic duo. What an excellent theme idea and a perfect implementation. Not a stretch among them.

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Michael SusaDec 18, 2024, 4:13 AMpositive95%

Love these types of puzzles. Feel it would be better thought of the grayed boxes would only be revealed after solving to increase the “AHA!” moment.

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OikofugeScotlandDec 18, 2024, 10:54 AMnegative70%

Resisted POSY for a long time, since it's always been a small bunch of flowers hereabouts--- as carried by some bridesmaids. I was also unhappy with LASED. It's the laser emitter that lases, when it emits the light---an ugly back formation, but well established. The thing that is zapped (like my detached retina) is lasered. Or so it goes in ophthalmological circles in my part of the world.

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OikofugeScotlandDec 18, 2024, 11:07 AMpositive71%

@Oikofuge Sorry, that was a bit moany as a stand- alone. Had to turn off my phone before I got to the bit where I said how much I enjoyed the clever construction, misdirection and theme. GREENPEAS / GENES in particular was breathtakingly good, and I laughed aloud in a quiet place when I saw it.

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 18, 2024, 12:08 PMpositive83%

@Oikofuge I truly respect the level of nitpicking in your first post. You wrote about things I neither know nor particularly care about - as it should be when we nitpick properly. Awesome ❤️

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Puzzled BritHampshire, UKDec 18, 2024, 12:19 PMpositive88%

@Oikofuge Off topic I know (sorry), but just wanted to say thanks for your interesting comment about the term 'emu' which I asked about the other day. Comments were closed by the time I saw it, but I wanted you to know it was appreciated!

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Brian SinclairPortland ORDec 18, 2024, 2:00 PMneutral89%

Clever puzzle -- though technically, the term "gene" wasn't coined until decades after Mendel's work - what he really studied was inheritance, being too early to study the biology behind it.

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CaptainQuahogPlanet EarthDec 18, 2024, 2:14 PMneutral87%

@Brian Sinclair - Mendel used the word "factors" for what he considered "particles" that carried hereditary traits. As you point out, he had no idea what the identity of these "factors" was. We now call them "GENES" and know quite a lot about their nature. I do hope you agree that the entry is valid.

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BillDetroitDec 18, 2024, 2:48 PMneutral84%

This goes out to @CQ, (who has stopped in for minute to comment on "gene", and will hopefully stop back again), concerning the dispute we had over the abbreviation "cres." for crescendo, used in Sunday's puzzle. I Admit I Was Wrong--(I'd do all caps, but the emus don't like shouting.) I looked back over the Google Image results for "cres in musical notation,' and yes, there were some--some in holograph manuscripts, some in printed editions; but all 18th-19th c.--IOW, the octopodes of musicology. (Interestingly, one was written as "cres:" rather than "cres.") Nevertheless, "cresc." has been the standard abbreviation for more than a century; if I came across "cres." in a modern printed score, I would surely know what was intended, but I would question the quality and professionalism of the composer/editor/publisher. (And trust me, there are some pretty bad engraving jobs out there!) The exception being a scholarly publication which was intended to reproduce exactly an earlier edition.

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David ConnellWeston CTDec 18, 2024, 3:07 PMneutral89%

@Bill - in the extremely rare cases of “forte” and “piano” being indicated in the late 18th century, the letter f or p was written in bold but not in italic. I trained my students to read music as it was actually written when it was actually written. Bach, Handel, and their contemporaries used the sharp sign to indicate a natural after a flat. And they used cres. to indicate crescendo. All notation comes from notation, it is ye same olde storie after all.

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NancyNYCDec 18, 2024, 2:51 PMneutral57%

Once I had FRAZZLE/FAZE and GREEN PEAS/GENES, I wondered if I'd be able to get the other theme answers without crosses, but I couldn't -- not even close. This is what I often try to do when a theme is doing something quite intricate and clever, but that fails to involve me in any way. I try to do myself what I wish the constructor(s) had done: make the puzzle impossible to solve without figuring out the trick -- whatever the trick is. Here, we're told exactly that: we'll need to understand the trick to "fully appreciate each starred clue." Appreciate it, not solve it. Still, I'm not completely unhappy that I didn't have to work all that hard this morning. A printout of Lewis's crunchy LAT puzzle arrived by snail mail late yesterday and I haven't fully recovered from wrestling with it. So my little gray cells were perhaps too tired for another big challenge today. This puzzle was cleverly conceived and executed, but pretty easy when all is said and done.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYDec 18, 2024, 5:19 PMpositive93%

"This puzzle was cleverly conceived and executed, but pretty easy when all is said and done." Nancy, Fine description of a fine Wednesday puzzle (imo).

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BarbaraVirginiaDec 18, 2024, 5:28 PMnegative50%

@Nancy I never heard of Mendel working with Green Beans. He is always described as working with pea plants, or sweet peas. Imagine my surprise when “sweet peas” which fits nicely in the space, got me absolutely nowhere.

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SebastianLondonDec 18, 2024, 10:24 PMpositive88%

Very clever Wednesday puzzle. Enjoyed it very much though I took an inordinately unhealthy amount of time to figure out ISAW and UPS. Which is funny because I 'didn't see' and was desperate for someone to 'send help'. Tee-hee. Yup, I know. There's a lot more where that came from. I'm here every Mon-Sun. 🤣

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Ms. Billie M. SpaightNew York CityDec 18, 2024, 1:39 PMpositive95%

I love how the theme entries had two layers of meaning--the first being the whole word and the second being the word formed by the letters in the gray squares. I enjoyed this puzzle even though I messed up in the southwest corner for eye exam and send help?

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MarkSanta FeDec 18, 2024, 4:13 PMpositive91%

Another clever puzzle, although just a tad bit form over substance. I marvel at how much must have gone into constructing the word-within-a-word theme, however the fill was not that challenging for a Wednesday. It's uncanny that for two days in a row I've matched my best time to the second!

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ScottSaskatchewanDec 18, 2024, 7:57 PMneutral59%

@Mark The constructor notes said they did it by writing a Python program. So I'm guessing the work was more conceptual coding stuff with very little grind. It was a good idea though and we'll executed.

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AABBNJDec 18, 2024, 5:55 PMpositive86%

Very clever and enjoyable puzzle, favorite clue "Sending help?". I stared at UP_ and still wasn't sure of answer, and even after filling it in, still didn't understand it right away, love that! Sam explained it, and love her tip about emphasizing other word, will remember that. Thanks to the constructors!

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Steven M.New York, NYDec 18, 2024, 6:14 AMpositive59%

Nice theme. Got caught up for a while because I took way to long to realize that the Cartesian clue was IAM and not suM. Then a fair bit of time to correct pUTZ to YUTZ when I didn't get the Gold Star.

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AndrzejWarsaw, PolandDec 18, 2024, 7:51 AMneutral75%

@Steven M. Right? I stuck with suM for a long time, too.

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SplatRockville, WVDec 18, 2024, 12:19 PMneutral54%

@Steven M. For awhile after I'd solved the puzzle, I could not figure out how IAM was a correct answer. Finally, dawn broke over my Marble head.

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Mr DaveSoCalDec 18, 2024, 7:13 AMnegative74%

SITUATION / STAIN didn't wow me. I think of a stain as the aftermath of a mess, not the mess itself. A mess is a situation? I guess - situation is a broad term. Sticky situation? OK. The others were tight and clever.

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dkNow MississippiDec 18, 2024, 1:15 PMpositive78%

WORSE for the gold. Fun solve fellows. Thank you

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GeoffVermontDec 18, 2024, 1:31 PMpositive99%

That was fantastic. I loved Saturday’s puzzle and I loved today’s puzzle. I can’t remember the last time I enjoyed two puzzles so much so close together.

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JohnWMNB CanadaDec 18, 2024, 1:55 PMneutral59%

Anyone else find the theme answers strangely uneven in quality? And yet, overall, somehow it worked for me.

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JayTeeKissimmeeDec 18, 2024, 2:52 PMneutral68%

@JohnWM Odd, weren't they…

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GrantDelawareDec 18, 2024, 4:04 PMnegative77%

@JohnWM I was not a super fan of ALL SORTS, which implies variety, not quantity. I know, clues are not definitions...

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GrantDelawareDec 18, 2024, 3:46 PMnegative76%

I still can't get my head around CINEASTE, as I can't think of any other word ending in -aste. Anybody? The only thing that comes close is "enthusiast." (Enthousiaste, in French.) Did we just borrow a French word for people who bristle at being called a "movie buff?"

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EsmereldaMontréalDec 18, 2024, 3:56 PMnegative74%

@Grant I think an easier clue would have been "Truffaut or Godard". I guess CINEASTE is a false friend. Its meaning in English isn't the same as in French.

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MichelleBostonDec 18, 2024, 4:01 PMneutral86%

@Grant According to Miriam Webster, -ast (or -aste) is a suffix meaning "one connected with". Gymnast is another example. I've never heard of a cineaste either though. That was the last word I filled in.

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BNYDec 18, 2024, 4:08 PMneutral67%

@Grant Maybe I don't understand your question? Caste, waste, paste, haste, chaste, baste, etc..... Or maybe you meant with a leading "e" too? ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade (emu filler)

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JakeLos AngelesDec 18, 2024, 7:46 PMneutral69%

@Grant It's a word I've heard a thousand times, maybe because I live in LA, where the cineastes need to differentiate from the movie buffs (and vice versa) for professional reasons.

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rt1Highlands, ScotlandDec 18, 2024, 10:09 AMneutral64%

Since you have an international following, fewer name brands might be helpful, or at least international ones.

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VaerBrooklynDec 18, 2024, 12:05 PMneutral88%

@rt1 Which ones are you talking about? UHAUL, FANTA and ESTEE Lauder all have international presences. And I think ETSY and SOLO cups are known outside the US as well.

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NickTokyoDec 18, 2024, 12:08 PMneutral73%

@rt1 There were other US-centric clues/answers, as well, but the only three name brands I spotted were: U-HAUL, FANTA, and ESTEÉE Lauder. I’ll grant that the first of those is probably unfamiliar to anyone who hasn’t lived in the US or absorbed it from some passing mention in a movie or something, but if anything, I think the soda brand is more popular outside North America—I think I first encountered it when on vacation in mainland Europe, and it’s fairly common here in Japan—and I looked up the cosmetics brand’s global sales figures, and they’re pretty evenly spread out around the world.

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