When the cows missed their audition, it was scene but not herd. (Must have been a cattle call.)
@Mike AHA! Mike succumbs to low humor!
@Mike I heard they still got the part in the musical (I believe it was Jersey Boys) so it still turned out happily heifer after.
@Mike No beef here... (Eat More Chikken)
@Mike I was wondering "Dairy make puns about cows?" I guess you were in the mooed.
@Mike Adult films viewed with the volume turned down are obscene but not heard.
Former water polo player here. I don't think I understand how "sink or swim" relates to WATER POLO. Barring a medical emergency, there is no sinking involved, so it doesn't really make sense to make a punny clue using that phrase just because the sport happens to take place in a medium where things have been known to sink. It'd be like using an ice cube pun as the basis for a clue for hockey. Yes there is ice, but there are no cubes involved in any way. And no - before you ask - I am not fun at parties.
@Ned S I don't believe you. I think you're the life of the parties.
@Ned S also confused by this. I was wondering if water polo players “sink” a shot like one would in golf or basketball?
@Ned S I took it as a pun on a sports reference to losing, like saying a team is sunk, as in they have no chance...like the Houston Rockets winning 3 in a row vs the Lakers.
@Ned S There is no sinking in water polo because you are swimming, no? And if you aren't swimming, then aren't you sinking? I think the clue is fine.
This is probably one of the harder Tuesday puzzles in recent memory. Most of the clues were standard Tuesday difficulty but one particular long clue. MISE EN PLACE That is super esoteric for a theme clue on a Tuesday, I got it entirely through crossing clues and still had to look it up after to know what it meant. And the fact it crossed with SERAPE, a foreign language word I've never heard of, SAL, an answer you need to have current young kids to get, and ROTI, another foreign language concept. The rest of the puzzle was pretty normal for a Tuesday but that one area was a huge Natick.
@Chris “Blueberries for Sal” is from 1948
@Chris Boy, do I agree, and how. MISE EN PLACE is about as detached from my world as it gets. I got it through crosses and guesses (I wasn't all that sure about 41D, as I was thinking along RBI or ERA lines.)
@Chris Both MISE EN PLACE, SERAPE, and ROTI all have been adopted into American English and have entries in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. You just need a more "global" perspective, not only in the sense of countries and languages, but of occupations, hobbies, food, etc.: MISE EN PLACE is standard vocabulary in the restaurant business; you might hear it in cooking shows, for example. I have certainly encountered the term, even though I have never worked at a restaurant and may have watched approximately 1.5 episodes of cooking shows in my life. Now, SAL I had never heard of. Everyone has their weaknesses! :-)
Strongly recommend tracking down a copy of Blueberries For Sal - the illustrations are just so delightful.
@Chris I guess this depends on your wheelhouse. Serape, Sal and Roti were all gimmes for me. But I'm of the age where I read Blueberries for Sal as a kid, and then to my children. I'm from California, and work in a school district where 60% of the kids speak Spanish at home, so Serape is common. Usually I have trouble knowing if the Indian bread is Naan or Roti -- both common crossword answers. It was nice of constructor/editors to let us know which this time. It's one of those Mauna Loa/Kea words.
I saw Carl Sagan at the University of Colorado at Boulder in the early 70s. A couple of physics profs gave up a ride to Boulder especially to see him. It was a revelation! He was spoke so exquisitely, was so easy to understand, infectious enthusiasm, and great humor. He is right at the top of my list of people whom I am so, so glad I shared a time period. Later, when his "Cosmos" was aired, I was in grad school, and he revitalized my love of learning once again. I wish we had billions and billions more just like him.
@Francis Oh, lucky you! I worked at Cornell in the early ’80s and my boss and I wandered to his office one day to see if he could help us find some images for a project we were doing, but he was not in his office. I was so giddy with excitement at the chance to meet him—and so bummed when it didn’t happen. He was really amazing.
@Francis Your story reminds me of the story that Neil DeGrasse-Tyson tells of his meeting with Carl Sagan when he was applying to college. It feels like a "passing of the torch" moment: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RmxAIYwMDZk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RmxAIYwMDZk</a>
@Francis I saw him too, at my college graduation from UC Santa Cruz. It was thrilling! He had just been arrested for protesting at a nuclear test site in Nevada. Those were the days, I guess. It pales with today's headlines. But still a good time.
Seen BUT not heard That's the way I learned it.
@Phishfinder Same here, and that hung me up for a good bit.
@Phishfinder I prefer BUT, too, but it's a preference, not a rule. ...and this is why we have crosses in crossword puzzles.
@Phishfinder I too learned "but"; however according to ngram "AND" is more common.
@Phishfinder my mother would always say “neither seen nor heard” 😂
I loved my cloSE ENcounter with this puzzle’s theme, with its “oh I SEE Now” surpriSE ENding that needed no reverSE ENgineering to understand.
Happy to have this puzzle to mark my 1-year Tuesday streak 🎉 Really enjoyed that it requires a little more thinking than usual, appropriate! Made a comment for my 1-year Monday streak (now at 160 and some weeks)… see you back here when I get a year of Wednesdays!
@Rachel Nice going! Hope you're back real soon!
I got such pleasure out of uncovering gorgeous long answers rarely or never seen in crosswords – CONTINUITY, STRINGENT, MISE EN PLACE. When that happens, I stop for a moment to dwell in the beauty. I loved the revealer too. It’s one thing to come up with theme answers that hide a word like SEEN, but to come up with a revealer that throws in a surprise element – that not only is SEEN hidden from sight but also not sounded out – that’s not only impressive, but brings a most lovely “Oho!”. Oh, by the way, every theme answer, including the revealer, is appearing in the Times puzzle for the first time ever, giving the puzzle serious pop. A lovely serendipity is the quartet of schwa-ending names in the east – ROSA, GAIA, SOSA, EDNA. All the above, Hal, contributed to a splendid outing, a terrific springboard to my day. Thank you!
@Lewis, Thank you for sharing that bit of trivia, that all the theme answers are first-timers! Very cool.
Seeing the undecipherable MISEENPLACE in the middle of my grid I thought I surely must have a mistake somewhere because that can't possibly be right. But then the congratulatory message popped up, anyway... I almost got a stroke trying to parse that letter salad. I needed the column to help me with that, in the end. I just don't get though why the columnist would parse the expression but leave us to check what it meant ourselves... I'd also ask why there was no indication in the clue of the expression being in French, but then Barry (hi!) would quote a 1795 newspaper at me to prove it's been used in English for centuries. C'est la vie, n'est-ce-pas? À New York, faites comme les Français: <a href="https://imgur.com/a/FOlLVuK" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/a/FOlLVuK</a> I have mixed feelings about the theme adage. On the one hand, I hated it when my maternal grandmother (*1925) tried to push stuff like that on me. On the other hand though, especially at restaurants, I prefer kids be neither seen nor heard...
@Andrzej In la cuisine there's plenty of français. Do we need to mark sauté, croissant, paté, or mayonnaise as "foreign, French"? It can be hard to pinpoint when something crosses the line from "foreign, deriv. French" to just "deriv. French." I think MISE EN PLACE has enough of a toehold in English to avoid the stigma of foreignness but then I watch a lot of cooking shows.
@Andrzej I've been watching food television on PBS and other networks for decades. I'm an avid home cook. The French phrase was one of the easier clues for me to solve. Our experience, expertise, interests and locations vary widely. Yes, I agree that mize en place is a fairly specialized term. It's chef talk and it's French. In most commercial kitchens they call it a "prep station." It's not common English regardless of who has and will comment here says it is. For a Tuesday especially, it probably should have been clued a little easier.
@Andrzej And Barry would have the right and the duty to do just that!
'kipedia: In the kitchen, the phrase is used as a noun (i.e., the setup of the array of ingredients), a verb (i.e., the process of preparing) and a state of mind.
For those unfamiliar with mise en place, perhaps you’ve heard of mise en scène? Both refer to setting up, but the first happens in a kitchen while the second results in everything you see on a stage or in a movie. And if you didn’t know that one either, you do now! I feel obligated to point out the mistake in 13A. Obviously, the correct clue is “hip hip hurrumba, e.g.”.
Mise en place...my inner Julia Child (what a thought!) belches with delight: that alone makes the puzzle a winner. Sure there's a bit of glue, but then there's Paolo Veronese, stringent Sagan in a serape drinking a papaya smoothie with his tacos at Rosa's cantina and leaving a handsome tip for the senor, and the revealer, Seen and not heard, which captures both the miseries of childhood and parenthood -- for some. And for others, we respectfully disagree: it's good to hear the prattle, it can be amusing and enlightening, even the yowls, cries and lies -- it's the prattlers who turn into xword constructors, I'd lay serious odds on that.
@john ezra The building I lived in for many years was styled an "adult condominium", a concept that was outlawed shortly after it was built as being discriminatory based on family status. But for many years, those who had bought early groused continuously at the noisy, disruptive, trampling-running-scampering-in-the-hallways kids. I used to try to explain that any healthy community is better for accommodating all varieties of humans and that having young marrieds in the building, speaking selfishly, would maintain the properties' values because our units would be more in demand. This would vastly offset any increased wear-and-tear attributable to the kidlings. Alas. As it is succinctly put in Yiddish: "Red zu die vant." Talk to the wall. Fortunately, the population of kiddles outlasted their detractors.
In my kitchen MISE EN PLACE can be translated as “messy place”
@Patricia Henry In my kitchen, we call it mise en plotz, because it looks like everything exploded.
As a Tuesday, this puzzle was like a bright kid in the class: smarter than a Monday, but not so stringent as a Wednesday. I liked it a lot.
I’ll take a turn as a pedant (and weaver) today: looms do not have pedals. They have treadles. Otherwise I enjoyed the puzzle.
@EA Dictionary entry for “treadle”: <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/treadle" target="_blank">https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/treadle</a> And for “pedal”: <a href="https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/pedal" target="_blank">https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/pedal</a> Seems close enough to me.
@EA Though the clue is close enough for crosswords, I appreciate learning the actual word, too. So thanks for your post.
Possibly my favourite part of cooking is getting all the ingredients and paraphernalia absolutely ready before pressing the "go" button. I didn't know there was a specific phrase for that, but I'll definitely be using MISE EN PLACE very regularly from now on! Fine Tuesday, thanks Hal!
@Alex That's my least favorite part! Thankfully, my husband is happy to prep all the things and let me handle the rest, so it works out pretty well! Of course, if he's not home I will do the prep, but it definitely doesn't bring me joy. The going button brings me joy. I love that it takes all kinds!! ☺️
Reasonably cute and straightforward. Enjoyable.
Hah! This one hit close to home. I had STERN parents in a STRINGENT household. Their MISE EN PLACE of adages for bringing up children was neatly laid out, with this puzzle's revealer right alongside the accompanying "Don't cry or I'll give you reason to cry." It was just part of teaching children how to behave and self-regulate, and I honestly have no traumas because of it. The proof is that I was able to solve the puzzle with the memory *and* a smile on my face. I found the puzzle ingenious, with the words SEEN being seen but not heard in the themers. Brilliant. Thank you and kudos, Mr. Moore!
ROTI [foreign language] x MISEENPLACE [foreign language] x SAL [proper noun] x CANST [Shakespeare lol] x SERAPE [foreign language] all crossing each other was... a choice. 5 different languages and a proper noun for a Tuesday all dependent on each other feels out of place.
@Charles These are all terms routinely encountered in English. Not sure what [Shakespeare lol] is supposed to mean. Macbeth is one of his post popular plays. Lacking education and vocabulary will of course make the puzzle harder to solve.
@Joe indeed, while lacking any sense of tact or decorum makes life more difficult, doesn't it?
Way chewier than most Tuesdays in the last year. Nice change.
A little chewy for a Tuesday, which is great. MISE ENPLACE was new to me so learned something new. Nothing else struck me in particular, except I remember Carl Sagan’s Cosmos very well. As another point of Contact I had a class at Boston University with his first wife Lynn Margulis who was groundbreaking in her own right, having shown that mitochondria in cells developed as bacteria thst had developed a symbiotic relationship with other cells. She was a great speaker and a brilliant woman!
@SP That whole idea (as I understand it) that the mitochondria became essentially energy producers for other cells, not as good at producing energy, is monumentally exciting.
@SP It’s so interesting learning what people enjoy in a puzzle. I think of a puzzle being “chewy” as a bad thing, but then I always cut the chewy fat off my steaks.
@SP We used to sing (to the tune of 'Rule, Britannia'): Miiii-to-chondria, the engine of the cells, Sym-bi-ohohoh-sis works out well. We were science students, not poets.
@SP Margulis' endosymbiotic theory of the origin of mitochonria and chloroplasts (maybe even nuclei) was indeed brilliant. Alas, in later years she went full crackpot.
Just realized, if you had MISENSCENE, POLIOVACCINE,SENIORMOMENT (or some version of those) you could have a puzzle with the theme of HEARDANDNOTSEEN.
@SP True, except MISEENSCENE is pronounced differently! I'll try it: mee-zahn-sen (Unlike: poe-lee-oh-vack-seen or seen-yer-moh-ment I hope my French pronunciation course paid off!
One and done. I breezed through this one. I'm a ten-month newbie so a two-day streak without any lookups is a big deal! On the other hand, I can't even think about Jamie Jeopardy. The sad thing was that going into Final Jeopardy--oh, I can't even say. You look it up!! By the way, the expression MISEENPLACE comes from the French verb "mettre," meaning "to put." "Mis" is the past participle. I can say: "J'ai mis mes gants" which means "I put on my gloves." "MISE" is the feminine form of that past participle. MISEENPLACE=put in place.
@lucky13 I feel like I've just read a mathematical proof. Good streak!
@lucky13 The NYT item about Jamie's defeat referenced an excellent article about cryptic crosswords from Slate. Good explanation about the appeal of these unAmerican puzzles. See here: <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2025/03/cryptic-crossword-puzzle-rules-examples-uk-nyt.html" target="_blank">https://slate.com/culture/2025/03/cryptic-crossword-puzzle-rules-examples-uk-nyt.html</a> Lots of references to US resources for the would-be crypticists.
@lucky13 I feel like WNYC jinxed Jamie yesterday! They were talking about a new housing initiative from the governor; after the news item the host mentioned Jamie's Jeopardy streak in relation to his day job working for the NJ Housing Finance Agency, and that he'd be on the show again after this big event with Gov. Sherrill signing an executive order. Then they wished him good luck...
Not a happy puzzle for me. SEEN but NOT HEARD was the rule for my childhood.
@Linda Jo I had a mildly successful tenure as an assistant baseball coach for a local Marietta Pop Warner league. There I learned that it's the parents that should be SEENANDNOTHEARD, dang it! ("Your son doesn't get playing time because he's LAZY!")
Tough Tuesday for me. A lot of it came together fairly smoothly but the reveal was an unfamiliar term (as phrased)* for me as was 40 across. Just took a lot of working the crosses. *Oh... and SEENBUTNOTHEARD was an answer in two puzzles, and... one of those is my puzzle find today. A Wednesday from February 27, 2013 by Daniel Kantor. Three other theme answers in that one: GREATHORNEDOWLS SECRETHANDSHAKE COMPUTERHACKERS And then the reveal was: "Decision reversal... or literally what can be found inside 17-, 22-, 49- and 58-across." CHANGEOFHEART Think about it. Here's one example with today's answer: SEENBUTNO(THEAR)D Here's that link: <a href="https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=2/27/2013&g=58&d=A" target="_blank">https://www.xwordinfo.com/Crossword?date=2/27/2013&g=58&d=A</a> .....
Didn't know MISE EN PLACE, but got it easily from the crosses. Enjoyed being reminded of "Blueberries for Sal", which my mother read to me when I was a young boy. Nice Tuesday puzzle, but I'm in favor of children being heard as well as seen.
you can always tell a milford man
@Rachel You get it!
Tougher than usual Tuesday for me. I loved it. If anybody hears from Deb, please send my regards. She helped me get started on a (late in life) lifetime puzzle journey, for which I will be forever grateful!
Report from the trenches: In the hotel kitchen in which I work, my co-workers and I use "MISE EN PLACE" all the time,as in "I can't believe somebody took my mise en place for the bolognese sauce! G.dd.m selfish night cooks!" Nor is my kitchen "cordon bleu"--despite my best efforts to drag it there--nor do my my coworker know, or care, what the feminine past participle of "mettre" might be. "Mise en place" and "prep" are almost synonymous, but not quite--"Mise en place" implies an assembly of prepped ingredients for a specific task--the aforementioned Bolognese, say--whereas "prep" is more general--a stock of diced onions, say, for whatever. Now, if I could only get them to pronounce "gourgères" correctly!
@Bill, we had gougères last weekend at a restaurant in Portland, ME. Yum! I worked as a chef for 20+ years before becoming a third grade teacher. I agree with your analysis of mise-en-place vs prep. A mise is specific to a dish or product being prepared, where prep is readying things that everyone in the kitchen uses.
@Bill I bussed tables at a country club one summer, and frequently got pulled in to do kitchen prep, because I was pretty good at it. For example, making mirepoix. I never once heard MISE EN PLACE.
@Bill, spot on! Thanks for sharing that. p.s. It might help them if you wrote “gougères” (probably just a typo, and I’m teasing). 😉 Love those!
@Bill It will be easier to get them to pronounce it correctly if you spell it correctly!!! It's "gougères" (only one "r").
My niece who shares the name is a fan of the old classic Blueberries for Sal, so I was particularly happy to see that one.
Fairly straightforward. Had a couple of thinkers. But not too hard thinkers. Well done. Pulled out the guitar today because we’ve had a lot of rain today in Minnesota.
@Red Carpet Want to hear my deepest, darkest secret? Promise not to tell anyone? I really, really love the Carpenters Song "Rainy Days and Mondays". The "What I've got they used to call the blues..." just flows all over my soul every time I think about it. Mum's the word.
@Red Carpet I can't imagine enduring the long and cold winter months in Meenasoota. Therefore you're probably a masterful guitar player. Play on, brother🎸
This was one that I finished and looked back over and had to wonder… why did that take me so long? Lots of little edits, I think. Probably due to lots of little kids not brushing their teeth so it became a bit of a “scold and solve”.
I totally appreciate the photo that heads the column, having grown up the LL Bean area—always a fun late-night jaunt after high school events. Ayuh.
@MB Did LL Bean serve beer (like IKEA?) I'm curious why LL Bean would be a late-night destination...
@Bill in Yokahoma LL Bean is open 24/7. It may have been the only place to go late night in Maine.
Mise en place totally in my wheelhouse. Made a stir fry this evening. No stir fry can succeed without proper prep. OPI and ITOO is an unsolvable cross without prior knowledge, which I did not have - Thanks Google for the solve! Fun puzzle.
@John Both of those show up quite a bit in these puzzles, so best to file them away. ☺️ Also, I hope you read the ITOO poem. Powerful stuff
It would have been an easy Wednesday so it landed on Tuesday. A tad chewy. Maybe the preparations were on the counter a tad too long…. The MISSEENPLACE was totally gettable from the crosses for those of us who don’t love kitchens (me). Only SAL was naticky and very little so. Other than L nothing else makes any sense. A fine puzzle. I agree with Andrzej that the column could have saved a Wikipedia search but they are always entertaining so …
Also, found it interesting that the creator called out the Sink or swim competition clue as being a great addition from an editor. I didn't like it at all, I thought it was very awkward, and not in a clever misdirection way.
Okay, there are "SEEN"s embedded in the theme answers. But there's not a trace of any 'HEARD"s -- either present or absent or anything at all. Is this CLOSE ENOUGH to justify a theme of SEEN AND NOT HEARD? I don't really see the connection, to tell the truth. But when you solve as a themeless the way I did, it makes no difference. Do you "sink" shots in WATER POLO the way you do in basketball? Or is the goal to sink your opponents? (That would be very nasty, btw).If so, the "sink-or-swim" clue makes sense. If it's neither one, the clue makes no sense to me. RUNDMC? When will bands and rap groups learn to name themselves in a way that makes sense to the world at large? But all in all, I found this a pleasant Tuesday with some nice long answers.
@Nancy I assume the point was that the word SEEN is in each of the themers but never pronounced as SEEN, so not “heard”. Which is a little light for a theme, I agree, but it’s a Tuesday after all.
Nancy, None of the SEEN in the theme answers are pronounced (HEARD) as "seen."
For those who weren’t fond of the WATERPOLO clue, I also thought it was a bit too stretchy. When I had W_T I started to fill in WITCHTRIAL which really was a sink or swim challenge in medieval times (but not, I suppose, a competition).
Nikita. Another stellar write-up. I'm a fan! I may just need to attend the Lewis Academy of Praise if this level of literary talent continues. It might even be worth the commute to Asheville.
I worked as a cold larder chef in a French restaurant for a very long month in my early 20s, so MISE EN PLACE was a gimme. I think I still have PTSD from that experience. Fun puzzle with a cute theme.
@Charles Nelson Reilly Mind if I ask what happens in a job like that? The culinary arts is utterly terra incognito for me.
@Charles Nelson Reilly PTSD pretty much describes restaurant work in my experience. As a young M Biggen I was a waiter and bartender. Loved my coworkers! We had a great bond. But the stress and long hours are tough. Most patrons have no idea what goes into making things right for them, and a good restaurant makes it look effortless. To this day when I eat out—for business or pleasure—I can’t help watching the whole scene. It hasn’t changed much. I feel gratitude and respect for all restaurant staff and always try to show it without being stupid. But if you’re at a restaurant where they serve attitude, no matter the price, go someplace else.
@Charles Nelson Reilly The real question is, did you end up with nerve damage beside the PTSD? Kitchens are dangerous places!
@Charles Nelson Reilly Have you read George Orwell's Down and Out in Paris and London? He had that job for a while. You will feel both SEEN and HEARD.
Not too hard today. The exact right level of difficulty for a Tuesday!📝 Run, don't walk to solve this puzzle! It has to be seen to be believed.👀 Looking forward to doing tomorrow's puzzle! 🫡🤔👨❤️💋👨
@Joe P It’s mise en place, which is French for putting in place. It means prepping all your ingredients prior to starting to cook.
@Joe P “Everything in place” - a French term used by chefs for getting ingredients prepared and arranged for service.
@Joe P In Montreal I've heard it as the term for an expensive blow dry in a hair salon.
@Joe P I'm with you. Have never heard this term in my life. Thought I had gotten one of the crosses wrong somehow.
@Joe P Here's a nice picture: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mise_en_place" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mise_en_place</a> pronounced --mee-zen-plahs
@Joe P It's French for "get a lot of dishes dirty."
When I was a kid, I remembered hearing the phrase that children should be SEEN, AND NOT HEARD, and I remember thinking how stupid it was. I was smart and funny. The world needed to hear what I had to say. Now, I'm not so sure. It may be just because I'm on the other side of the divide, and I certainly didn't raise my kid following that adage, but... Since we've been encouraging children to speak their mind, culture has increasingly become centered around our precious little ones. I can see an (indirect) line from the advent of rock 'n' roll to Pop Art to the cinemas being engulfed by the universes and multiverses of alleged "super-heroes". Certainly, this can't be a good thing for civilization. Now it's time for me to be un-HEARD for a while. I think I'll go visit my pal Raphael at the Met. I will look and not speak.
When I was a kid, I remembered hearing the phrase that children should be SEEN, AND NOT HEARD, and I remember thinking how stupid it was. I was smart and funny. The world needed to hear what I had to say. Now, I'm not so sure. It may be just because I'm on the other side of the divide, and I certainly didn't raise my kid following that adage, but... Since we've been encouraging children to speak their mind, culture has increasingly become centered around our precious little ones. I can see an (indirect) line from the advent of rock 'n' roll to Pop Art to the cinemas being engulfed by the universes and multiverses of alleged "super-heroes". Certainly, this can't be a good thing for civilization. Now it's time for me to be un-HEARD for a while. I think I'll go visit my pal Raphael at the Met. I will look and not speak.
@The X-Phile Are you in NYC? Is the Lex an avenue and not a town? I have yet to see the Met show here in town, but it sounds pretty swell.
I'm fine with a little en francais in cooking, like mirepoix. For the uninitiated, that's chopped onions, carrots, and celery, in a 2:1:1 ratio. But MISE EN PLACE just seems gratuitous. It's called prep.
@Grant Sent me down an interesting rabbit hole looking up mirepoix: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirepoix" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirepoix</a> We had been in the Sur la Table store (in the Natick mall!) last week (Toys R Us for grownups) and they had little jars of it for sale. I wondered why anyone would need to buy it (or want it other than fresh) but then wasn't sure I knew what it was. And I had confused it with the Creole Holy Trinity.
@Grant - I learned about MISE EN PLACE during covid when, like so many others, I took an online cooking course. It is much more than simply "prep." Yes, "prep" is a component of MISE EN PLACE -- but it is not the whole deal. It's more of a meticulous mindset. Having said that, if MISE EN PLACE were a clue in a future crossword, and "prep" or "preparation" were the entry in the grid, I would not complain. Or even vice versa.
@Grant TIL about 2:1:1 I've heard MISE EN PLACE and mise en scene enough that they no longer seem foreign, or pretentious, or gratuitous to me. I don't even watch a lot of cooking shows, although I did see some of The Bear. NYC kitchens don't offer a lot of room for MISE EN PLACE; there's not a lot of PLACE on my counter. ;)
@Grant Where I shop that's called 'soffritto'.
@Grant <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mise_en_place" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mise_en_place</a>
@Grant, mise-en-place is a very specific prep. If you're working the grill, for example, your mise might include the spice rubs and sauce ingredients you need for YOUR particular station. Prep is getting things ready that everyone in the kitchen uses: chopping onions, garlic, and herbs; peeling and slicing/dicing veggies; making stock, etc. Of course, in an average small restaurant or a chain, the traditional French terminology is less likely to be used. But it's definitely used in classical and/or fancier establishments.
@Grant, dozens of people I know (in my ordinary, non-chef life) use the term mise en place. It’s a pretty well-known term for having all your measured, sliced, diced, chopped, and otherwise prepped ingredients set out before you start to cook. Prep is just what you do to get each step ready along the way. Prep the sauce, prep the onions, etc. Or even prep [yourself] for dinner if going out to a restaurant.
In my own perhaps iconoclastic view, glam isn't a genre for the character of Ziggy Stardust nor for the album "The Rise And Fall of Ziggy Stardust And the Spiders From Mars." Ziggy is more of a concept, a Bowie idea about a rock star from space (about which you may feel free to form your own opinions but when I hear "rock star from space" I roll my eyes.) But generally speaking, I would say that glam was more of a fashion trend than a genre. The album was a rock album. If we had just heard the songs and not had the legendarium, we would have said, "Ah, a rock album." Let's take a different sub-genre of rock, by comparison. Punk had fashion elements, such as mohawks, piercings, etc. But that wasn't all. It also had a specific sound, associated with fast pace, simple chord structure, hostile and aggrieved lyrics, etc. All that makes it more of a music genre than a fashion. Bands like T-Rex, Sweet, Bowie and Roxy Music are considered glam, but from a musical point of view, do they really offer a coherent genre? Or are we talking platform boots and garish makeup on men?
Up at 3:30 PDST for the trip to Sea-Tac ...long trip to the gate, but aided by the transport chairs. (Daunting airport. Should have taken tylenol before the trip.) Forced to try the puzzle on this iPad, completed it, got a Not Yet msg, and could not find anything wrong. Checked letter by letter on the long flight, and no error. Maybe I hit the zero? Just another reason for PEN AND PAPER!) Whatever. I don't count a streak or use a timer. Tomorrow I will be able to print my puzzle again! Hallelujah! Another hour to wait for the next leg of our trip...so I guess I'll try the Wordle...
@Mean Old Lady What's the next leg of your trip? Are you headed over seas? Just wondered. ....
I enjoyed the cross of CHEER with its North Jersey pronunciation, CHIA.
Mostly liked but ASKIN was not obvious enough and had me stuck, since the crosses SEN (vs REP?) and KROC were not gonna happen. Also MISEENPLACE (which is an obscure word you either know or looks like total gibberish) crossing with proper SAL and CANST. All in all took me 5 reveal squares
@max Mise en place—French for everything in its place. Just for future puzzles…