Saturday, August 31, 2024

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MCArizonaAug 31, 2024, 5:15 AMneutral64%

I can finish Fri/Sat puzzles about 1 out of 3 times without any lookups. I did a pass on this one and got 2 probablys and 5 maybes. Second pass got one more maybe. At this point I asked myself "Is this a Sam E puzzle?" And yes, it was. I have never been on the same wavelength as Sam. I do the Spelling Bee every day and am often annoyed at the words he excludes and the "words" he includes. So knowing I would not have much of a chance, I pulled all the hints from Wordplay, and still got next to nothing. Then I did a reveal, saw the answers, and moved on. Glad I did. A few clever bits, but mostly too clever by half. This is why I never get too attached to my streaks. Sam is a clever guy but his mind is wired differently from mine.

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Hello WorldUSAAug 31, 2024, 12:06 PMnegative80%

@MC I don't bother solving Sam E's puzzles anymore, I already know that I don't enjoy his cluing style. I feel like people should pay attention to who the constructor is and their cluing style, I'm willing to bet the vast majority of the angry commentators today wouldn't have bothered trying. Life is too short to slog though puzzles that you don't enjoy, just reveal the puzzle and move on. In other news, today was my fastest solve ever!!

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LinRPBoston, MAAug 31, 2024, 6:30 PMnegative66%

@MC I could have written that. Ugh. Dreadful. And agree with your thoughts on the Bee 100%

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HeidiDallasAug 31, 2024, 6:52 AMnegative90%

I know Saturdays are supposed to be tough, but this went above and beyond. I won’t complain, because not every puzzle is for everyone and there was nothing I could call out as unfair, exactly, but it just wasn’t fun. Not for me, anyway. Sorry.

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ScottSeattleSep 1, 2024, 3:25 AMnegative88%

@Heidi This one was a bit much for me, too. The clues were so obscure you could think of ten answers, all wrong.

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suejeanHarrogate, North YorkshireAug 31, 2024, 10:02 AMneutral78%

Some of the clues had a question mark after it. For me they all could have.

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N.E. BodyAnywhereAug 31, 2024, 2:18 PMnegative84%

You know you’re in for a rough ride when you get just one answer on the first pass through the puzzle, and it’s in Latin, and you spell it wrong.

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sonnelIsla Vista, CAAug 31, 2024, 3:08 PMneutral66%

@N.E. Body I got only UGG, 6d, on my first pass. An ‘education’ day for me.

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LynnMassachusettsAug 31, 2024, 3:12 PMpositive96%

@N.E. Body This gave me a belly laugh. Wonderfully put!

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Alex BarryMilwaukeeAug 31, 2024, 3:51 PMneutral80%

@N.E. Body I'll see you one NIHILi.

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EileenCAAug 31, 2024, 4:58 AMnegative79%

Tiresome. Not fun. Clever, though, to some, I guess.

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JamesMassachusettsAug 31, 2024, 7:52 AMnegative94%

Thoroughly unenjoyable. Saturdays are supposed to be challenging, but this was ridiculous. Gave up half-way through. Just because you can publish something like this, doesn’t mean you should.

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LaurenLondonAug 31, 2024, 8:43 AMnegative91%

@James very well put. This wasn't a challenge it was a boring look up slog. Once looked up the answers didn't elicit an aha how clever but a what? Getting some gave little clues to crossings. The literally worst puzzle in years.

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AnitaNYCAug 31, 2024, 3:28 AMpositive85%

SO many stellar clues. My FAVES are… “They’re on their own time” ALASKANS “Reach for the cars?” HAIL A CAB “Line outside a box office” ONE PLEASE “It moves with traffic, in brief” ETA That wonderful quote from Admiral Nimitz for IWO JIMA And a whopping fifteen debut entries. Well done, Sam!

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Average JoeEarthAug 31, 2024, 8:01 AMnegative89%

I see the evil overlord of the Spelling Bee has once again tried to invade Middle Earth. Take heart fellow travelers and together we can return his puzzle to the realm of the obscure from whence he dredged this infernal beast.

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JessBrooklynSep 1, 2024, 6:06 PMpositive98%

@Average Joe Hilarious! Gave me a good chuckle 😆 Well done, sir

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Mario ZVirginiaAug 31, 2024, 1:48 PMnegative92%

I found this puzzle to be an unpleasant experience.

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William JamesUKAug 31, 2024, 9:10 AMnegative86%

Dreadful. Utterly dire impenetrable clues that even when brute forced made only passing sense or relationship to the answers. Yup all justifiable answers, before I am corrected in my “insufficiency” of solving prowess but I am struggling to see how OKAY WHAT or ONE PLEASE made the cut as in common parlance. Awful end to otherwise fun week.

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Katrina S.Canadian in MalaysiaAug 31, 2024, 10:23 AMpositive55%

@William James, remember that it's Saturday. It's supposed to be hard! Although both of those clues took me finding most of the crosses to solve, I've said OKAY WHAT‽ in response to something baffling before and appreciated figuring out out. Once I had ONEP__ES_ that one clicked too. I love that it's a line you say rather than aine of people like I originally thought, clever! Your struggles can be someone else's gimmes. Enjoy the challenge.

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Lorne EckersleyCreston BC CanadaAug 31, 2024, 2:32 AMnegative61%

A lot of answers that are not in common use. Yasqueen? Spare me.

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Dave SOttawaAug 31, 2024, 2:48 AMneutral49%

@Lorne Eckersley It's two words, Yas Queen, and although I'll never hear it either it's all over the internet.

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Kate TaniKyotoAug 31, 2024, 3:08 AMpositive86%

@Lorne Eckersley If you don’t hear this often enough, maybe it’s time for a glow up? 😉

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JinMichiganAug 31, 2024, 1:25 PMneutral61%

@Lorne Eckersley That’s been a pretty common phrase for years!

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Phillip MPerth, Western AustraliaAug 31, 2024, 5:38 AMnegative94%

This puzzle was not fun at all, sorry! Try again next time.

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HC TabakNew Paltz, NYAug 31, 2024, 11:16 PMnegative88%

Adding to the chorus ... gratuitously difficult, not even in a challenging way. Sam should be put in a time out for this one.

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JTorontoSep 1, 2024, 10:41 AMnegative86%

@HC Tabak. He should already be in a time out for his curation of the spelling bee word list.

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MP RogersNeenah, WIAug 31, 2024, 3:27 AMnegative57%

Hmmm, what's that whooshing sound I hear? That's the sound of my ego, slowly deflating, punctured by, of course Sam Ezersky's marvelous creation. RIP, streak, we hardly knew ya'.

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MarkVirginiaAug 31, 2024, 11:44 AMnegative93%

Bad for me, Ezersky’s name before a puzzle means boring slog.

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MikeMunsterAug 31, 2024, 3:40 AMneutral76%

When I buy McNuggets, I use chicken tender. (Time for me to cluck out.)

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiAug 31, 2024, 2:13 PMneutral68%

@Mike But when you're feeling packish, does fast food really satisfy?

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BKAnn ArborAug 31, 2024, 6:49 PMneutral53%

Kinda obnoxiously hard?

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John DealGoffstown NHAug 31, 2024, 10:14 AMnegative54%

Oof. This took me twice my Saturday usual. I'm torn between lauding the clues I genuinely loved even though they were brutal ("10-point play" was inspired) and the ones that were so ain't-I-cute clever that the solve became harder if the solver knew anything about the subject (looking at you, SAKEBAR—no one would *ever* talk about sake in shots: not connoisseurs, and not frat boys [sake *bombs*, sure]). I also disliked PEDIATRIC for "childish"—is that meant to be witty? There's hard and fair and funny—which I adore and hope for every Saturday—and then there's hard and confused and self-indulgent. With respect, this puzzle was too much of the latter for my taste.

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JohnNJAug 31, 2024, 4:02 PMnegative58%

@John Deal Agree. Also FAVES as slang is not at all indicated. I know it’s Saturday, but there are plenty of ?’s. This isn’t limited to Same E., but the use of the quoted phrases is way overdone. These are generally not fun IMO, even if they’re usually not too hard.

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Nina LNYCAug 31, 2024, 3:29 PMpositive53%

*shakes fist* EZERSKYYYYYYYYYY!

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James JacobsArlington, VAAug 31, 2024, 9:54 PMnegative77%

I'm glad to see I am not the only one whose brain and sensibility does not line up with Sam Ezersky's. I'm not saying he's bad at his job, I'm just saying he does not give me a good time. When I finally have that aha moment and figure out one of his difficult clues, it brings me no joy, just a reminder that he's younger and cooler than me. It feels like work or an SAT question. Ezersky combines the worst traits of Eugene Maleska and the work supervisors twenty years my junior who constantly find ways to remind me that I'm a fossil lucky to still be employed.

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me in njnjAug 31, 2024, 11:08 PMnegative46%

@James Jacobs In Spelling Bee, he loves WANNA, DUNNO, GONNA, and many more such, but eschews countless reasonable words such as OTIC and INANITION, to the chagrin of many. Of today's five pangrams, three were FARTING, GRAFFITIING, and TARIFFING. 'Tis true. Too young.

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Red CarpetSt PaulSep 1, 2024, 1:11 AMneutral71%

@James Jacobs I think it’s more like the logic section of the LSAT. Which requires actual diagramming to do well.

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Nick RoumelAnn ArborAug 31, 2024, 9:02 AMnegative61%

First I thought of that one April Fool’s puzzle with the deliberately impossible clues. Then I thought of a movie villain, who enjoys and savors torturing his victims. Then I thought of Cool Hand Luke, where the sadistic prison guard made Paul Newman dig a hole, fill it again, then dig it again. Like Luke, I finished, but this was miserable. I had more lookups today than the entire summer combined. Puzzles are supposed to be fun, but after finishing that now I need to do something that is ACTUALLY fun.

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MichaelMDAug 31, 2024, 12:30 PMnegative84%

I disliked this puzzle so much I decided to just break my streak rather than use Wordplay. I'm not telling Sam not to do more constructions, but when I see his name in the future I may give a quick glance and immediately turn to reading the TV listings page.

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MarkFlorida, dang itAug 31, 2024, 6:22 PMpositive84%

I've hit my finger with a hammer before. It was more fun than this puzzle. Pee Cue? Puhleese.

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MDBIndianaAug 31, 2024, 6:29 PMneutral52%

@Mark — I usually start by going through and entering the answers to clues that I know and work back from there. Today is maybe the first time I hardly knew a single clue. I know Saturdays are tough, but I have solved them many times before with no problem.

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MiaPNWAug 31, 2024, 3:15 PMpositive46%

Really, Sam - ENSILE? And you won’t give the Spelling Bee annatto or aroar? Fun, challenging puzzle. Perfect Saturday morning fare.

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiAug 31, 2024, 4:12 PMnegative92%

@Mia I have a long list of grievances re the Spelling Bee, especially annoying when words IN THE PUZZLES are disallowed.

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JoyaNew YorkAug 31, 2024, 4:54 PMpositive75%

@Mia I try annatto many times every time just in case one day it works.

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LewisAsheville, NCAug 31, 2024, 11:48 AMneutral70%

“Oh, a time-to-sequester puzzle” was my first thought upon seeing Sam’s name atop a Saturday. Shut the door. Encase myself in an imaginary shroud. Relax. Let the subconscious lead. Things I know in advance. There will be no junk in the grid. None, because Sam. There will be tons of NYT debut answers, which means my brain will get to improvise. There will be many tough clues requiring multiple visits. And so it was. I’d be working in one quadrant, when I’d peek into another and suddenly see an answer that had eluded me. It might beget yet another or even a mini-splat of answers until boom I’d hit the wall of stuckness once again. Then back to the sweet work of overcoming the vacuum. My brain, throughout, spinning like a gyroscope, inquiring, working behind the scenes, looking at clue words suspiciously, gambling on guesses, leaping at successes. The Ezersky experience. And NYT answer debuts? Fifteen! Fifteen! A grid popping with freshness. So many lovely debuts, too, such a HAIL A CAB, IS BIG, LOUNGEWEAR, SAKE BAR, YAS QUEEN. Crossnerd me calculated that in the first five columns of the grid, three-quarters of the letters belonged to debut answers. Wow! An epic outing peppered with discovery and thrills, and leaving my brain fat and happy. Thank you so much for this, Sam!

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Barry AnconaNew York NYAug 31, 2024, 12:00 PMpositive72%

Lewis, After YAS as an answer seven times for [_____ queen!], I'm glad Sam finally got the full expression in the grid. Now to HAIL A CAB and hit a SAKE BAR in my LOUNGE WEAR.

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Eric HouglandDurango, COAug 31, 2024, 12:26 PMneutral46%

@Lewis I have to disagree about your assessment that there is “no junk in the grid.” ENSILE is about as perfect an example of crosswordese as you’ll find (which is probably why it hasn’t been in a NYT puzzle for over 10 years). IS BIG and FRESH SALAD strike me as green paint. But I’m glad you enjoyed the puzzle. Except for some of the clues (CROMAGNON and PEDIATRIC in particular), I found much of it to be a slog.

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BNYAug 31, 2024, 12:38 PMpositive79%

Interesting comments. I didn't think this was all that bad, or all that hard really. He threw us an emu right at the top. Nobody else tried to fill in Tim Walz for "Coach" in quotes? :) My issues included getting stuck with "stile" because I spelled the name "Ines", not knowing you can have galop with one L (rebus? I wondered) or much about Oklahoma OK, and wanting fresh basil instead of salad. Other than that, and apparently bucking the consensus, I think I actually enjoyed this one. It was hard but wrangleable. Favorite was "nihilo" only because I like the sound of the phrase. I could SO do without hearing the icky phrase "vape juice" ever again though.... /Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiAug 31, 2024, 1:55 PMneutral58%

@B I had INES in here first, too. It's the Spanish spelling... though I did know the 'ancient dance'.... and thanks to recent Scrabble discussions *right here on WordPlay* I finally got the '10-point play' reference. It was nice to finish error-free. Maybe Sam will read his Comments. Did you know ADIEU is not accepted on The Bee? Nor is TIFFIN. It's especially bitter when one game uses/accepts a word but its neighbor does not....

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JohnNJAug 31, 2024, 4:05 PMnegative88%

@B Agreed on almost all of this. Fresh salad is particularly egregious. I had “green” for example, which strikes me as more of a set phrase. On the bee I now stop after genius because the choices both in and out are so absurd.

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BruceAtlantaAug 31, 2024, 3:26 PMnegative71%

I have to wonder what the people who were complaining about the difficulty of Thursday's puzzle thought about this one. I'm picturing phones flying across rooms, cursing, angry letters and cancelled subscriptions. Somewhere in the world there is probably someone who solved this easily, without lookups and without frustration, but I have to wonder if a person with abilities like that hasn't just transcended what it is to be human and gone on to some higher plane. I absolutely couldn't do this one. I looked up maybe 70% of it.

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Jeff MaloneyKansas CityAug 31, 2024, 3:49 PMpositive57%

@Bruce Absolutely the same here, and I am able to solve most puzzles, albeit slowly. I have often wondered if God could make a puzzle so hard he could not solve it. If so, it would look a lot like this one.

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Susan KNewark, OHAug 31, 2024, 5:02 PMnegative88%

@Bruce Me, too. Absolutely, totally out of my wheelhouse. It hurt my brain (and my ego).

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CatherineCalgaryAug 31, 2024, 4:56 AMneutral42%

I needed ALL the answers provided in today's column to give me any hope of breaking this puzzle. I had just finished patting myself on the back for whizzing through yesterday's crossword, praising myself for being "on the same wavelength" as the constructor. No coinciding wavelengths today, sadly. It was just too difficult for me. Thank goodness for this article, or I'd have been lost.

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Elizabeth OliverBossier City, LAAug 31, 2024, 11:04 PMnegative93%

Awkward! This puzzle was clunky and awkward! I got through it but it was not fun!

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EthanManhattanAug 31, 2024, 10:25 AMneutral54%

"Cleverness is not wisdom" - Euripides

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JayMassAug 31, 2024, 4:02 PMneutral55%

@Ethan I look for wisdom elsewhere, but when I want cleverness, it's crosswords I look for. Has "clever" been so overused ironically that it has become an insult? Turn up the clever to 11 on Saturdays for me.

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Jessica BloomMaineSep 1, 2024, 2:27 AMnegative85%

Ugh. Not on that wave length at all. A one hour slog that ended my streak because I couldn't bear to struggle with it any longer. One thing I liked was the clue for STOPWATCH and I actually got most of the bottom half of the puzzle in that hour, a little more after a few wiki clues, then that was enough. No thanks, Sam--stick to the Spelling Bee. So much just not good fill, not in the language. SOOTS? ZTILE? GALOPS? Even FRESH SALAD is an off phrase--who says that? And the supposed "conversational" fill like OKAY WHAT was missing something. Felt endlessly obscure and yes, "forced" or UNNATURAL. Perfect center word. Can't love them all, I guess. LET'S NOT do this again.

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SebastianLondonAug 31, 2024, 1:34 PMpositive40%

OKAY, WHAT? That thoroughly kicked my MCNUGGETS! I'm off to HAILACAB for ONEPLEASE. I've bought an ECONOMY ticket to stay in a MANOR in IBIZA and drown my sorrows at a SAKEBAR. 😆

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BruceAtlantaAug 31, 2024, 4:53 PMnegative69%

@Sebastian HAILA CAB would be a great name for the kind of wine you don't buy because the name's too cute and you suspect it's being used to cover up a sub-average product.

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Laura WhitakerWashington DCAug 31, 2024, 12:45 PMpositive76%

So happy to have a challenging puzzle. I can’t remember the last time I thought “oh wow I’m going to need to Google something to fix this, I’ve got NOTHING for two quadrants!” But confidence that the editors and constructors wouldn’t do us dirty kept me at it, and it was completed lookup-free though my coffee was cold by then. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. Please more like this on Fridays and Saturdays.

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ChungclanCincinnatiAug 31, 2024, 1:27 PMnegative58%

Hand up for “Coach” TIMWALZ. (too soon, I guess) A nefarious and chewy puzzle. I’m surprised at the frequent negative comments. All’s fair in love and Saturdays. Bravo, Sam!

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J CuthbertsonSeattleAug 31, 2024, 4:06 PMpositive93%

Reading the other comments, I'm really glad to know I wasn't the only one who struggled mightily with this puzzle. Easily the hardest ever, for me. Congrats to all who managed to finish it!

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ScottSeattleSep 1, 2024, 3:30 AMneutral57%

@J Cuthbertson I finished it—only after I stopped caring about how many times I was looking up answers.

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Nancy J.NHAug 31, 2024, 10:29 AMpositive84%

Holy moly, that was a workout. I love Sam's brain. [They're on their own time] for ALASKANS [Line outside a box office] for ONE PLEASE and many others were trademark Sam. Inscrutable at first, then the big aha. Big slowdown in the SW because I had only the G for 44A and immediately put in hARdiNG. Not helpful! This is my favorite type of Saturday puzzle. Almost nothing on the first pass, a small foothold, then gradually building from that until I'm down to one box. Today, it was Z TILE crossing LAC. I'm not a scrabble player, and was just not seeing Ontario as a lake. I stared at that empty box for minutes before it hit me. More, Sam, please?

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Eric HouglandDurango, COAug 31, 2024, 12:31 PMneutral74%

@Nancy J. [Line outside a box office] is a great clue, but I have a vague memory of seeing something similar in the last six months or so. My research at xwordinfo.com didn’t find anything, so I would be grateful to anyone who can confirm this.

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JJSFAug 31, 2024, 12:47 PMnegative88%

Woke up, made my coffee, saw it was Ezersky, was prepared to hate it, and it far exceeded my expectations. Realizing 1A was VAPEJUICE was like a revolting cherry on top.

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Mean Old LadyNow in MississippiAug 31, 2024, 1:48 PMnegative64%

@JJ At least it wasn't my horrifying first guess for _APE JUICE. Scary times...

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Steve HCleveland HeightsAug 31, 2024, 2:23 PMnegative93%

I agree on VAPEJUICE. What an unpleasant thing to include in a crossword, especially at 1A.

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RealTimShadyAtlanta, GAAug 31, 2024, 2:33 PMnegative78%

"My task for today is to ENSILE my corn," said no farmer ever. "Every time I play with my defective Wooly Willy toy it SOOTS my hands." #nope Also, as a homosexual, I think I have ethos to say that the correct spelling is "YAS KWEEN."

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ad absurdumchicagoAug 31, 2024, 1:55 PMpositive48%

The one-l galop, that's a duple-time dance. The two-l gallop's much faster than a prance. And I bet my buttery scallops there isn't any three-l galllop.

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BNYAug 31, 2024, 2:24 PMneutral92%

@ad absurdum The three-L version is when the surgeon snips off that suspicious bit of bladder. ____________________ Jesse Goldberg 8/28/2024 for Puzzle of the Decade

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SuePalo Alto, CalifSep 1, 2024, 5:25 AMpositive69%

@ad absurdum You must love Ogden Nash, as I do. For those who aren't familiar... The one-l lama, He's a priest. The two-l llama, He's a beast. And I will bet A silk pajama There isn't any Three-l lllama.

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Steve LChestnut Ridge, NYAug 31, 2024, 2:22 AMneutral84%

I put in INEZ immediately, and then when I got COTTA right after, I decided it had to be the variant INES because what word starts with ZT? That’s why you have to be flexible with these things. BTW Caitlin: if it’s haute (and not haut) cuisine, which it is, it would have to also be basse (not bas) cuisine.

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JurgaEdinburghAug 31, 2024, 7:48 AMneutral56%

@Steve L I did the same! Had no idea what the clue for 19A was referring to so this was the crossing that did me in.

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KatieOntario, CanadaAug 31, 2024, 10:33 AMneutral81%

@Steve L Samesies! Started with INEZ, changed it to INEs after getting COTTA. It was the last square to fall.

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HardrochLow CountryAug 31, 2024, 4:59 PMneutral88%

@Steve L In Caitlin’s defense, she did make it a point to contrast haute cuisine with bas cuisine, which is a thing. I understand your point, but it is an expression that has been used in culinary discussions. See: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/234vvbyk" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/234vvbyk</a> — — — — — — — —

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dutchirisberkeleyAug 31, 2024, 8:24 PMneutral55%

About look-ups: When I am working a crossword, I submerge myself in the puzzle, crisscrossing, backtracking, speculating, taking out and reentering fills, until I am hopelessly, absolutely stuck, especially on characters I never heard of in TV shows I never saw or the location of a cafe in Timbuktu, I google or search on Wikipedia, and I love doing it. The rabbit holes have been a siren's song from the time I worked in the library reference department of a major university (not UCB, UTA), and the solid pleasure of exploring a source has never left me; googling or wikipedia-ing is an extension of wandering through a card catalog or roaming the stacks in search of an answer to a question—sometimes important, sometimes trivial. I have never considered finding a fill through searching outside a puzzle anything but a continuation of my education. When you don't know something, considering it "cheating" to look for an answer seems too silly. Find it. Learn it. You don't already know everything.

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Barry AnconaNew York NYAug 31, 2024, 9:48 PMneutral68%

dutchiris, Thanks to the crosses, I haven't had to look anything up to complete a solve for quite some time, but *after* solving I research the answers I did not know from the clues to learn things -- or people -- I did not know as clued. The older I get, the more I don't know, and I want to keep learning.

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RenegatorNY stateAug 31, 2024, 11:02 PMnegative36%

I'm glad I'm not alone in finding this puzzle too hard. I don't begrudge anyone who aced it, but I finally gave up. I did crack some really tough clues, but the obscure words did me in. What?? Obscure words?? But look at all the gentle crosses!! Yeah. I'm not the most literate or intellectual guy here. That's for sure.

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ZackChicagoSep 1, 2024, 7:03 AMnegative49%

@Renegator - yeah... right there with you... INEZ/ZTILE, ENSILE and LAC is a lot to ask... but the fact that you also have NIHILO and ELLER/GALOPS in the mix means you can be chasing the solve for a long time. Really hard... needed to phone a friend to get through it. More obscure words that I like in my puzzle. My only regret is not figuring out ZTILE on my own... there were some really clever clues, but lots of esoteric answers that weren't figurable unless you happened to know the trivia.

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archaeoprofDanville, KYAug 31, 2024, 3:59 PMnegative69%

DNF/DNC (Did Not Finish/Did Not Care). Why is it that some challenging puzzles make me want to try harder, while others feel like a waste of my time? Glad to hear that there were some who enjoyed this one.

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BruceBirminghamAug 31, 2024, 4:38 PMnegative54%

@archaeoprof Same here. After my first pass through across and down I had only three words filled, and one of those was iffy. I said to myself I've got better things to do on a Saturday morning. Reading the Wordplay confirms my suspicion that I would have not been any closer after multiple passes. Some days it's better to just walk away.

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CLoNJAug 31, 2024, 5:41 PMnegative80%

@archaeoprof I can't not finish one and had to come to Wordplay wayyyyyy too early, *and* hit the look up site, as well. I try to learn from the "cheats", but just could not tune into Mr Ezersky's style, this time. I'll encourage myself with some MTWs from the archive. :-)

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JohnWMNB CanadaAug 31, 2024, 12:34 PMnegative49%

For a long time while glacially solving this puzzle, I was uncomfortably aware of how easy it would be for any creator to make a puzzle that would be virtually impossible for almost anyone on earth to solve, especially me with my limited life experience and knowledge. Instead, at the NYT they somehow apply their skills all around that knife-edge of pretty easy to pretty darned hard to ‘will I ever figure this out, woof just barely’ (like today!), to the occasional ‘ok, I'm in over my head, but I’ll get you next time.” And that for people from just about all over the place. Today was not light fun while solving, but it was a higher calling to respond to, and it will keep me coming back for more. One, please.

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Peter C.Wheaton, ILAug 31, 2024, 9:07 PMnegative93%

Ugh. This was a frustrating puzzle that took way too many lookups and word checks before I finally finished it. (I wouldn't claim I "solved" the puzzle today.) The constructor and I were definitely not on the same wavelength - if, indeed, he was transmitting at all. I did not have fun. Hurry up, Sunday.

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Momdoc57Mount Kisco NYSep 1, 2024, 4:44 AMnegative90%

I’ve done the NYT puzzle every day for years and this was my least favorite puzzle ever. The clues were more obscure than clever, with some answers I didn’t understand even after checking the answer key. YASQUEEN? SOOTS? GALOPS? ENSILE? Way too much self-indulgent pedantry on the part of the constructor. Please don’t accept more puzzles like this — it was no fun at all from start to finish.

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oliveCASep 1, 2024, 5:22 AMneutral44%

@Momdoc57 thank you for saying it so I didn’t have to.

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TerizIllinoisAug 31, 2024, 2:41 AMpositive64%

Yikes! Just when I was starting to get cocky...tough puzzle but I thought it was great!

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MargaretNYAug 31, 2024, 5:25 PMpositive91%

I had a streak, and I just let it go. What a relief.

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ChrisAZAug 31, 2024, 10:03 PMnegative84%

Not my favorite. Yes, it's Saturday, but, really, ENSILE? AMNESIC (usually "amnesiac")? Pretty obscure, and the cluing awfully vague even for Saturday. But also - how is FRESHSALAD not akin to GREENPAINT? Really?

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Barry AnconaNew York NYAug 31, 2024, 11:26 PMneutral87%

Chris, The FRESHSALAD GREENPAINT question was posed earlier. Here is a link to the thread: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/shared/comment/41ho5v?rsrc=cshare&smid=url-share" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/shared/comment/41ho5v?rsrc=cshare&smid=url-share</a> EMUS do not eat salad

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C-64PDXAug 31, 2024, 5:10 AMneutral48%

A tough one for me in the NE corner, partly because I had gREenSALAD, which didn't really fit the clue, and ENSILo. (I'm sure that the Amazon oCHODOT must be version 8 in Mexico.) I put the puzzle away for a while, then came back and said "Okay, this has to be LAO and this has to be ROOTS" and finally got LALA and was able to proceed from there.

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dutchirisberkeleyAug 31, 2024, 5:27 AMpositive91%

@C-64 I laughed out loud at that oCHODOT explanation Funny! 😂 Emus love a good joke, too.

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