Marcia
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Must object strenuously to POETRIES. Poetry is an abstract noun. "Types of poetry" or similar is the way to say this. Kind of upset that it was allowed. Ugh. No.
Those who have never heard of the names that cross at square 39 could never fill it in. That includes me. To my mind that is a fatal flaw and the editors should not allow it. Otherwise rather nice.
@Justin He is still in the car, doing 80 in a 40.
I didn't love "saucy" to describe some teens and pasta. It's an outdated word that could pertain to anybody, and for pasta, I believe the word is SAUCED. I suppose that by entering FRESH I fell into an intended trap, but it was a more appropriate answer.
@Allen Et alia = and other things Et alii = and others (people)
Really fun and clever. Halloween is already a success.
22A, FISHEYE If she's tired of getting the fisheye from the hotel clerk, A person can develop a cold. "Adelaide's Lament," Frank Loesser, Guys and Dolls <a href="https://www.lyricsondemand.com/soundtracks/g/guysanddollslyrics/adelaideslamentlyrics.html" target="_blank">https://www.lyricsondemand.com/soundtracks/g/guysanddollslyrics/adelaideslamentlyrics.html</a>
@James Jacobs In Spelling Bee, he loves WANNA, DUNNO, GONNA, and many more such, but eschews countless reasonable words such as OTIC and INANITION, to the chagrin of many. Of today's five pangrams, three were FARTING, GRAFFITIING, and TARIFFING. 'Tis true. Too young.
@Dave No thanks!!!
Others have criticized or defended the use of Inuits. (Previous use really cuts no ice as to whether an entry is worthy or not.) This was only the tip of the iceberg in this puzzle's "pushing it" for plurality, however. Some top constructors consider it a sign of weakness to rely heavily on words ending in "-s." This puzzle does that. Sheds, cops, Hokies, ribs, and "your roots" . . . plus adios, SMS, Oikos, LDS . . . OK. But: While pho, cedar, spoor, and A.M. can of course be made plural, they are singular in common parlance. Anchors, sets, and eras (except in T. Swift's tour title) are only slightly less of a stretch. All could confuse and frustrate the relatively new puzzle-doer who might be attempting a Wednesday. Constructors are allowed considerable leeway, but using too many of these creates clutter in a weekday-size puzzle. One is left wondering: Would Will have allowed it?
It's unusual for me to give up before finishing a puzzle, but this one was among the few. I was sure Passing measures was ASSENTS, which threw me off. Sports lingo is the language of another planet to me. If it wasn't GREEN SALAD, surely it was GREEK SALAD, although that would be pushing it (spinach? dolmades?). Trying to recall whether I have ever heard the phrase FRESH SALAD in my life, I have to say no. Never heard of EchoDot, so that corner remained only partly filled in. SOOT is an abstract noun. Constructors need to respect those more. SW also had issues. I "knew" that what should have been INQUIRY was INQUESTS and didn't erase when I should have. I was confident about LOUNGEWEAR, but IS BIG didn't occur to me; the closest I got was IS SET. Never heard of a rapper called Warren G., so that mostly didn't happen. The rappers and pop stars and their so-called songs are becoming increasing deterrents to filling in crosswords. I would really like to know who The Times thinks its readers are or ever will be. Still proud of myself for getting the rest, even VAPE JUICE and eventually McNuggets (I have never eaten at a McDonald's and figured this would be some kind of pasta), LA LA, and (almost) Yas, Queen (I thought it was Yes). For my age, stage, and reference level, GALOPS, Aunt ELLER, and ex NIHILO were more like it.
What a lucky break that this puzzle was rejected as a weekday entry! Really good as a Sunday. Lots of fun.
Trying to understand HONOR THE DEW. Donner the hue? Calling Dr. Spooner. Too many weird words and for pity's sake NO MORE ASSES OR ARSES. I can't say I loved this one at all. Found the humor lame overall. So very many young 'uns lately--it's wearing thin.
@Sue Have a good one, Sue! 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎈🎈🎈🎈🎈🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯 (won't ask how many)
Welllllll...... A lifelong pencil-and-paper fan, I print out the crosswords using a toner-saving command. On my puzzle, nothing was underlined. After filling out the entire puzzle, I looked at Wordplay to comprehend the uppercase clues. So overall, rather confusing, but I get it now. Another point: In today's Constructor Notes, the puzzle makers share five examples that didn't make it into the puzzle. I'm not the first to observe that nothing there was underlined. I see nada on my screen even without printing anything out. Are we supposed to guess what they are?
As an oldster I am increasingly tripped up by the names of pop stars, rappers, and their songs and albums. Had to look up Sara McLachlan and figured TPAIN had to be wrong (but couldn't see how) until I checked the answer grid. The longer I continue this lifelong hobby, the better I get at it--except for the references above, which have been causing my confidence to erode. Dickens in 42A? No problemo. Otherwise I thought this puzzle was terrific and original. Gas station sushi made me LOL.
Nice one. To boost my brainwaves I devoured a warm, freshly baked banana coconut macadamia muffin while working on the puzzle. If you have trouble with a puzzle, bake muffins, make tea, and voila. Could work!
@Andrzej A thousand EPA employees have been told to expect possible axing at any moment. Does that count?
@Pru Someone else got it: blankest blankets.
Does the second earring also cost $42 million or do you get a discount for buying the pair?
Characters and terms related to Mario games are among many categories that have entered crossword language as something "everybody knows" . . . as history, literature, and music once did. Like many other puzzle fans, I have never played a video game and probably never will. Nor have I ever watched an episode of The Simpsons, but crossword constructors are clearly fans. Over the years, crosswords have taught me the names of the family, a friend, a neighbor, the owner of a favorite bar, and the owner of a shop. Yay? Less frequently seen, but sometimes, and also out of my personal experience: the kids in "South Park." Someone could write a dissertation on how far we have fallen.
Two points for proper use of "nauseated." Seeing that word shouldn't calm the stomach, but it does. At least ten points for proper use of "elated," largely thrown to the wolves in favor of the non-word "elate," which always gives me a stomach ache. This was a lovely little Wednesday.
I would call this a perfect Thursday puzzle. Thank you, Kevin Curry.
@CaptainQuahog Good idea, although conceivably "lazy" will appear in a clue or answer one day, and comments about it would then be quashed. It takes only about a million hours to complete an accepted puzzle, often with at least one set of revisions. "Lazy" is not the word! Also..."criticize the action, not the actor." There is no need to insult the constructors who work hard to amuse us. If anything, insult the editors who accepted the puzzle. Or just let it be.
I'd call this one at least as tortured as clever; tries too hard. The author's awful self-congratulatory "poem" says it all and should not have been published. I'd have guessed a person in his 20s, but he turns out to be an experienced attorney.
The average person sheds one lung a day! Ha. Ow. Gasp.
A strange thing happened last night. I printed out the puzzle to work on paper (old-school type) and at the top it said "Edited by Will Shortz." The online version said "Edited by Joel Fagliano," as usual for many months. Must have been a weird glitch, but I was excited for a minute. Hoping Will is doing well.
@Steve L Passive participle that became used in active voice, but shouldn't have been. A good writer wouldn't do it. Amusingly, here's the example provided by American Heritage: "We were elated by the good news."
Really fun, especially when the meta appeared.
@Steve Relax over a glass of wine and you may remember.
@emylee As an intensifier--a tipoff that the person is richer than a millionaire? And to insert a slangy word, suggesting zillionaire, which isn't a thing?
Ah yes, that famous rock guitarist Virgule. Love his riffs.
Just don't pack a Magic Eight Ball in a carry-on for a plane ride. It's banned! But okay to pack in checked luggage. TSA is pretty cute about this. The website says: For Carry-on bags: We asked the Magic 8 Ball and it told us…Outlook not so good! For Checked bags: We asked the Magic 8 Ball and it told us…It is certain! <a href="https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/magic-8-ball" target="_blank">https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/magic-8-ball</a>
In "Barrymore," Christopher Plummer came onstage singing "I've Got a Gal in Kalamazoo."
Excellent. Agree with at least one other reader about the large number of abbreviations, but the theme answers compensated.
As soon as I had read the hint for 24A, Key of "Spring" in Vivaldi's "Four Seasons": Abbr., I started to hum that well-worn but beloved piece in my head and still haven't been able to drop it. Lacking perfect pitch, I didn't know which major key it was, but by golly, it was major, not minor, so at least I got three of the four letters in that answer until later. If only I could stop singing it in my head.... I appreciated Deb's explanation of 53A. Even after filling the squares correctly, and despite many years of attempting not to be tricked by such verbal contortions, I could not see "Number" as "Something that numbs"--maybe because it's only sort of a word. But okay. 55A: I'd never heard of "lash-up," so it was quiet a while before I was willing to erase the first letter of "mashup." But eventually I was forced to accept the unlikelihood that a senior of any age, whether 17 or 65+, has sought a safety schoom.
A jolly, holiday- and weather-appropriate theme from Sam that includes one of his Spelling Bee favorites. Fun.
@Steve L Born Vivian Mary Hartley, she not only played Scarlett and Blanche but also won Oscars both times.
Enjoyed this one, which rewarded perseverance. Yes, Mr. Constructor, for me, a question mark would have helped with 32A, Patient check-ins. With language in NYT puzzles increasingly incorporating terms formerly considered crass, I was dismayed by 8A, Crapper, and disappointed that the constructor was proud of it. Oh, sure, it's an old word, et cetera, but please, no more. I entered "corn lot" for "corn pit." Having never watched "WKRP (speaking of KRP) in Cincinnati" and therefore not knowing Tom (who may not exist) from Tim Reid (58A), that mistake potentially worked. Corn LOT for PIT also made 54A, Kitchen mess, "slatter" instead of "spatter." Wondered whether that word had come from the same root as "slattern." Well, yes--but it's a verb, and not too far off. Pretty antique, though.
A million years ago I dimly recall that boys used to type 8008 on calculators because it looked like BOOB. Hilarity ensued.
Clever theme and a near-perfect Wednesday: easy as pie, yet challenging enough to be fun--surely not a cinch to pull off. I would argue that the items of punctuation described in 12 Down are hyphens, not dashes. Not even en dashes. Just hyphens.
Enjoyed doing this one and figuring out the trick. I share Deb's and Simeon's lack of enthusiasm for rollercoaster rides--and for me, anything higher than, say, an attic--other than conceptually, as here. Deb, LOL for "purportedly." Simeon's original clue for 33A was funny and would have been easier to answer than "a nonsense title." It may have been rejected solely for its length.
Enjoyed overall, especially the now-all-too-rare literary quotation. One caveat: this puzzle contains far too many sports-related answers, including some obscure ones. DQ-ing and BATTERS were new to me, as was "ON TILT," but at least that one could be sussed out. TOE POKE and REC Specs were additional never-heards that arrived thanks only to their crosses. I'm old enough to remember LEO Durocher; BIBS is kind of obvious even to the non-sports minded; and T BAR is more than familiar from previous puzzles. For me, eight sports terms is eight too many, but let's say at least twice the number one might reasonably expect in a weekday (small-format) puzzle. My two cents. Deb? BTW, I know what you mean about comparing all future martinis to that first, mind-blowing lemon one. I had prosciutto and melon while overlooking a canal in Venice about a million years ago (not, like your martini, consumed for the first time) and neither item, esp. the melon, has come close since. Kind of like the first, never-to-be-replicated, euphoric hit of crack cocaine--or so I have heard.
For Tom Lehrer's slightly different recipe for this beverage, see the final lines of his song "Bright College Days." <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl3mRjydcPw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl3mRjydcPw</a> Bright college days, oh, carefree days that fly To thee we sing with our glasses raised on high Let's drink a toast as each of us recalls Ivy-covered professors in ivy-covered halls Turn on the spigot Pour the beer and swig it And gaudeamus igit-ur Here's to parties we tossed To the games that we lost (We shall claim that we won them some day) To the girls young and sweet To the spacious back seat Of our roommate's beat up Chevrolet To the beer and Benzedrine To the way that the dean Tried so hard to be pals with us all To excuses we fibbed To the papers we cribbed From the genius who lived down the hall To the tables down at Mory's (Wherever that may be) Let us drink a toast to all we love the best We will sleep through all the lectures And cheat on the exams And we'll pass, and be forgotten with the rest Oh, soon we'll be out amid the cold world's strife Soon we'll be sliding down the razor blade of life But as we go our sordid sep'rate ways We shall ne'er forget thee, thou golden college days Hearts full of youth Hearts full of truth Six parts gin to one part vermouth.
@Francis Fascinating. For the umpteenth time, NYT reader comments have driven me to explore. Wikipedia's entry for Bierce, whose wit has tickled me no end for many decades, offers the following tidbits: "In 1913, Bierce told reporters that he was traveling to Mexico to gain first-hand experience of the Mexican Revolution. He disappeared and was never seen again." [He was 71 or 72 years old.] His father's name was Marcus Aurelius Bierce. Marcus Aurelius expanded greatly upon his own noble name when naming his large brood: Ambrose "was the tenth of thirteen children, all of whom were given names by their father beginning with the letter "A": in order of birth, the Bierce siblings were Abigail, Amelia, Ann, Addison, Aurelius, Augustus, Almeda, Andrew, Albert, Ambrose, Arthur, Adelia, and Aurelia." Ambrose B. was married for about 33 years, producing three children, before divorcing in 1904. Imagine getting a divorce in 1904. This was nearly a decade before he disappeared, so presumably he did not do so to escape his family. Who knows? Apparently no one.
Ms. Lovinger, amazing video clip finds. Those pups! But...does that snake-in-action pass the "breakfast table test"? Maybe it doesn't apply to Wordplay, only the puzzles themselves. Still, my stomach lurched. I was glad, however, to be munching on a bagel while working this puzzle with its eight references to food of several nations, including two notable Italian sauces. Mr. Judge, were you hungry when you worked on this? 29A, Crepes often served with chutney 37A, Genoese sauces (ideally not used in the plural--constructor, please note: pluralizing abstract nouns may be common in puzzles, but it's off-putting) 39A, Classic tune used as in ice cream truck jingle, with "the": Around here, that would be Turkey in the Straw or Do You Know the Muffin Man 44A, ___ bean (points for omitting the usual Hannibal Lecter allusion) 54A, Sauce made with Parmesan 21D (a stretch as to food), Person who consumes a ritual meal to absorb wrongdoings of the dead 32A, Steak often encrusted in sesame seeds 52A, Chain letters? 48D: That line from "When I'm Sixty-Four" is among my all-time favorite Beatles lyrics. It has struck me from the first time I heard it (i.e., when it was first released) as an insight into John Lennon's brilliance. Sure, one might imagine someone else being a grandparent years in the future. But counting and naming the grandchildren carries that thought to another level. A girl and two boys. It still makes me laugh, how many years later? Sixty-four? Not quite.
@Barry Ancona Why do you break your comments in strange places? Are we e e cummings?
No religion, please. Ever.
@emylee As an intensifier--a tipoff that the person is richer than a millionaire?
@Xword Junkie Oops. Okay--reduce the total to 10. Still too many.