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@Andrew Indic is an adjective applying to anything from the Indian subcontinent, especially in linguistics. It's used frequently these days for keyboard apps capable of typing in the various Indic-language alphabets.

@Pao Ton In Italy we ALWAYS pluralized "lira" to "lire", back when we had our own monetary system. We said "una lira", but "cento (100) lire". In fact, when the euro came in, it was a struggle for many Italians to stop pluralizing it to "euri" and follow government recommendations to leave the word invariable. With regard to the Mini crossword, the clue said "currency replaced by the euro in Italy". The currency that was replaced by "the euro" was "the lira", and so "lire" doesn't fit. But it's absolutely not true that Italians treated "lira" as invariable. I suppose Americans, back in the day, said "liras".

@Michael Weiland And mine has always been - just the names of the colors in order, which are no more difficult to remember than some made-up sentence which then has to be interpreted. True: after early childhood I have had to insert indigo, not present (as I recall) in what kids were being taught in the early 50s.

@Ms. Billie M. Spaight Just because of Julie Andrews!

@SBK Happened to me too... How about Apollo Wii as a fun new control system for today's spacecraft?

@john ezra I Peter 3:20 categorically states "a few, that is, eight"... you can prove anything using the Bible!

@Andrzej ALL your posts inspire discussions: so glad you're here!

@Francis I'm just waiting for Ketanji.

@Francis It's just because most people hardly ever use "savior" except in a religious sense, and many of us older types have seen the word mostly in the King James Version of the Bible, where it's spelled "saviour".

@Ace Do you also write the introductions for Stephen Colbert's "Meanwhile"? If you don't, you should!

@Times Rita Luigi Einaudi was Presidente della Repubblica Italiana at the beginning of our Republic following WWII. His son Giulio was head of one of Italy's leading publishers, Giulio Einaudi Editore. And Giulio's son Ludovico is one of my favorite composers, spanning as he does classical, pop, rock, folk and world music. (I'm a classical and operatic singer.)

@Hanson @Lewis ...and for anyone unaware of Paolo Pasco's constructing greatness: in the short time I've been solving the NYT crosswords, I've done three of his – two Thursdays (27 June and 31 October) and a Sunday (28 July), all in 2024. Three quite different types, each one memorable and each one (IMHO) a masterpiece. I don't see Jeopardy on Italian TV, but keep up with it via YouTube and am excited to follow Paolo Pasco's progress!

@Emu fodder So happy to see you back!

@SBK Well, we don't exactly "contend with" consonants – we just chuck 'em in and proceed. But that could conceivably have had some influence on the change. My own experience is that that T muddies up a fast melisma (series of different notes) if one is singing it with the solfa syllables, whereas a strict alternation of consonant-vowel trips lightly off the tongue. The L in Sol, on the other hand, is vocalized and interrupts nothing. So I can certainly see your point.

@NYC Traveler Pretty sure it depends primarily upon whether the constructor needs a C or a K in that space. Might be fun to cross it with Leif's dad, ERIC aka ERIK...

@Francis I believe the point is that all the theme answers are still complete words even without the final T.

@Andrzej In fact, Paolo will be back later this season, even after his winning streak ends: all those who win 5 or more games come back for a Tournament of Champions. Really BIG winners tend to be invited back multiple times, in successive years. That is what happened to Ken Jennings (referred to above for his 74-game streak). He racked up millions over the years. When the longtime and widely beloved host, Alex Trebek, died, Jennings accepted the job as host... of course he can no longer compete in tournaments!

@Emu fodder Completely concur. And though people may say Italy currently leans that little bit destra, I'm thrilled and relieved to have lived here for over half a century. NYT lately seems to be trying to square the circle, which famously may look like it's succeeding but never truly does. But please don't leave us alone in the struggle!

@Steve L Isn't that what Scrabble (basically) is?

@Steve L Yes, "più lento" is the simplest and most generic way of saying "slower". If the composer specifies "meno mosso", there is added an idea of "calm it down" or "less agitated" (which could also be "più tranquillo" or "meno agitato"). If the composer says "ritardando" or "accelerando" there is implied a (more or less gradual) process of slowing down or speeding up. There are more variations, like "rallentando" which is substantially the same as "ritardando". (I've been a professional musician in Italy for over half a century.)

@Lavinia Reminds me of that fateful four-minute stretch from "two-to-two to two-two".

@NH If the key signature contains either a D flat or a D sharp, and in a particular passage you need a just plain D, that's when the natural sign is obligatory.

@Richard [Things that happen when I sit on my lost glasses...]

@G Or how about Brenda Lee's "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" – a hit in 1958, which she re-released as a music video in 2023, whereupon it became the number-one single on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100?

@Katie Pasta vs Penne Advil vs Aleve pita vs naan

@Bill And Giulio Einaudi was the son of Luigi Einaudi, the first nationally-elected president of the Italian Republic following World War II. A most outstanding family in every way.

@The X-Phile And I remember many orchestra players of the Maggio Musicale Fiorentino (Florence's chief musical organization) sneaking transistor radios into the pit during a concert to keep up with the Italian soccer team in the 1982 World Cup – which Italy then won! We in the chorus were too exposed to audience gaze to try any such thing...

@Francis 78 here, haven't lived in any English-speaking country since 1973 but breezed through this one and totally loved the Shakespeare! My 3 siblings and I, plus various offspring, have a weekly Zoom in which we read Shakespeare plays, role assignments wonderfully handled by the greatest Bard fan of the siblings. Currently almost done with Love's Labour's Lost, probably Othello next. And I definitely remembered SCHIRRA, TONEARMS and all the rest. Keep up with culture and current events, everybody, it'll never hurt you!

@dutchiris She'll just have to put a TRACER on it.

@CrispyShot I absolutely agree! In fact, in the very word VOWEL I would argue that the W is acting pretty much as a U. In Italian to transliterate the English word "wow" we write "uau". Not to mention, of course, the Welsh vowel W. In sum, as far as I can see, W is every bit as much a vowel as Y (sometimes or not).

@Marshall Walthew (Six, actually...)

@G I've always heard her called "Venus on the Half-Shell".

@pollyq Living in Italy as I do, I took "problemone" to be Italian for "big problem". ("Problemino" is "little problem"; "problema" is just plain "problem".) Over here we can augment or diminish anything with the stroke of a suffix!

@random Freiburg fan A nice homage, kudos!

@Bruce If I recall correctly, the Apollo 13 crew were able to survive by building a makeshift air filter adapter, using duct tape and a few other things, when they were forced to move from the Command Module into the Lunar Module. I understand all NASA missions carry duct tape.

@Francis DOOK makes no sense at first glance, but if you parse it differently you'll do OK.

@Dan Me too – solving in Italy on my Android phone using Chrome browser on the NYT website. Must be worldwide then. Be interesting to know whether anyone has ever done the NYT crossword up at the ISS... but I suppose there's already a bit of a built-in lag way out there.

@John Carson Quite challenging but I did it - thanks! Fun!

@RozzieGrandma I think we are to assume that when they first saw the star, they were in the East.

@Mike Me too, a couple of decades at this point, and it's one of Britten's most enjoyable things to sing. When we did "Rejoice in the Lamb" at the Maggio Musicale, I had the alto solo (For the Mouse is a creature of great personal valour) and had great fun doing it. We all did, in fact, and I'd bet whoever has had the privilege of singing anything by Britten counts it as one of life's joys. I'm sure @Mike will agree!

@Bill But oh! that G-natural! And I will never forget singing Ligeti's Lux Aeterna. (Used to memorable effect in 2001: A Space Odyssey.)

@Andrzej I abandoned the USA over half a century ago, for deeply-felt moral reasons. Everything in the meantime has shown me that was the right decision. But it's beginning to look as though the infection could be spreading. More and more I feel Earth could only profit by losing our particular species, if that could be done. Next dominant species, probably one with opposable thumbs: raccoons, maybe? Not necessarily apes, anyway!

@Linda Jo @Andrzej Sherman?

@SBK 🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️ The most famous EVIE I can think of is Evie (for Evelyn) Colbert, Stephen's wife, who guests on her husband's show (not often enough IMO) and is very decidedly pronounced, as you say, Ev-ee. NOT Ee-vee!

@Andrzej As a Lieder singer and lover of German poetry, my heart hurt to see "KOLN" instead of Köln. Robert Schumann's song cycle Dichterliebe, on poems by the great Heinrich Heine, has many high points, but the song about the Cathedral in Köln is one of the highest. And Heine rhymed "Köln" with "Welln"!

@Steve L I believe it's also possible to verb a noun.

@SBK in TO The Italian team is "gli azzurri" – their jersey is a lighter shade of blue than the French one.

@Bill Wait till you find out that in Italian it's "la zucchina" (fem. sing.) and "le zucchine" (fem. pl.)... No such thing as "zucchini" (which would be masc. but doesn't exist).